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To: ksen
Ok, which parts of Jesus' life and ministry, besides the miracles, are we not supposed to use as our example?

Which "part"? ANY part that is at the exclusion of the whole. I said before - the GOSPEL can be an offense to those who have not received it - WE don't have to be offensive.

I guess according to your view I shouldn't be kind to my enemies, etc. because then I would be trying to be Jesus.

No. In fact you SHOULD "be kind to your enemies", but the argument from the calinist side seemed to be the opposite.

I'm sorry that you are the COTM (Calvinist of the moment) because you are taking as an unfair target for their position when I have not had problems with you personally here.

BTW - He said we would do miracles too.

1,985 posted on 04/06/2004 4:35:29 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
I said before - the GOSPEL can be an offense to those who have not received it - WE don't have to be offensive.

If you tell someone something that is offensive to them, but that they need to hear, you are going to appear offensive. How do you think the Jewish leadership felt about Peter, John, and Stephen? I bet they found them, personally and not just the message, offensive.

But were they really being offensive? I don't think they were. And yet if they were to appear on this board and preach they way they preached in Acts they wouldn't last a day before they were banned.

1,986 posted on 04/06/2004 4:43:32 AM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: IMRight
...but the argument from the calinist side seemed to be the opposite.

Then you are not understanding our arguments.

I'm sorry that you are the COTM (Calvinist of the moment) because you are taking as an unfair target for their position when I have not had problems with you personally here.

I've never had problems with you either, and I don't foresee having problems with you. But I am not sorry to be the "COTM" as you put it. Feel free to take your best shots, you won't offend me. But I will answer.

1,988 posted on 04/06/2004 4:46:21 AM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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