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***What do I have to be ashamed of? I witnessed (many xs). People are responsible for their own actions.***

2Cr 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

2Cr 6:15
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

2Cr 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

2Cr 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,

2Cr 6:18
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

***No movies? You too?:') Throw me some scripture on this stuff my way please. Just a little at a x though. I'm only good for about one paragraph and then I go scrolling to see what everyone else talking about :')****

That IS the problem

Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

***More scripture please where we aren't supposed to be nice and friendly when witnessing. Someone comes screaming in my face and they have lost me. If they talk down to me I ignore them.***

No, you show me where it says that friendship is necessary to present the gospel .

How "friendly" was Peter?

Act 3:14
But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

Act 3:15
And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

He called people to repentance not a discussion on cars or movies .

NOW YOU SHOW ME where it says we have to make people like us so they will come to Christ.

You have all proved that you lose sheep with the power of your personalities.
Maybe next time you will decide to do it as God ordained

Let me see your scripture Cindy ...I believe God saves , and the way ordained is the presentation of the gospel ..He no where says that it is necessary to play nice .

The grace of God , over which you have NO CONTROL saves .

You have lived under the delusion that YOU save by showing how nice and happy you are can open ears to the gospel. That is not what Jesus said.

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Thats exactily what has happened here, the gospel has been preached thousands of times here, its been rejected.

Have we talked about cars, motercycles, movies, family, yes and you have too. I have read most every calvinist thread here, you guys talk about other stuff too don't tell me you don't, your way off base here Mom and your calvinist pride is showing.

BigMack

You have lived under the delusion that YOU save by showing how nice and happy you are can open ears to the gospel. That is not what Jesus said.

1 Corinthians 11:1 Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

First of all, you have created a false dichotomy, in which the only two options are an ecumenical feel-goodism where we all just sit in a circle and sing Kum-ba-yah and avoid any points of disagreement and a Calvinist theocracy. Yes, I'm overstating the case, just as you overstated yours. Tis the nature of false dichotomies. As my grandpa says "Them ain't the only two choices."

Secondly, I think if you are honest you will admit that you have overstated Cindy's case that it is simply "being nice and happy" that wins people to the Lord (though this is an approach that is not often tried by Christians contrary to your opinion).

Finally, you have separated the preaching of the Gospel from the "walk." They cannot be separated. They are inextricably linked. If one's walk is off-kilter then their preaching is going to be like a gong in the world's ears. And if the presentation of the Gospel is lacking, then there is no real walk to begin with. It is the Protestant Reformation mind which has exalted the collegiate lecture to the ultimate pinnacle of presentation of the Gospel. In the New Testament instead, we see house churches, we see discipling, we see one-on-one contact, we see the "follow me as I follow Christ" concept. And that is one of the fundamental means of presentation of the Gospel in the New Testament.