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That being said, I repeat: traitors deserve death, and in a society based upon Christianity, heretics may be rightly counted as traitors, as they seek the overthrow of the existing social order. The death penalty itself is an entirely Scriptural and moral practice in such cases, presuming of course that due process is observed.

Is there some part of the above that you find to be untrue?


I find it curious you ask what part of the above is "untrue". What true? That it is his opinion? The statement itself? The man stated his opinion and that is what I object to.


My question is, do you agree "traitors deserve death, and in a society based upon Christianity, heretics may be rightly counted as traitors, as they seek the overthrow of the existing social order."
1,177 posted on 03/22/2004 10:27:27 AM PST by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN) Maybe a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
I find it curious you ask what part of the above is "untrue". What true? That it is his opinion? The statement itself? The man stated his opinion and that is what I object to.

I'm sorry it's such a difficult question. Since you "object" to the statement, I thought you might tell us what is wrong with it, what is untrue.

Here, let me deomonstrate.

My question is, do you agree "traitors deserve death, and in a society based upon Christianity, heretics may be rightly counted as traitors, as they seek the overthrow of the existing social order."

"Traitor deserve death." Yes absolutely true.

"in a society based upon Christianity, heretics may be rightly counted as traitors, as they seek the overthrow of existing social order." This also seems to be true. Knowing what he means by "society based upon Christianity" as one with a monarch and one within church and state are not seperate.

I don't agree that we should be forced to live under such a regime, or that we ever will acheive such a thing on this earth. It is our eventual goal, however. Christ is King and His Kingdom is a Christian monarchy.

But, in this life on this earth, I don't see it happening. But if it were the case, then heretics would indeed be traitors. And they would indeed seek the overthrow of the existing order. And, barring other methods of removing this corrupting influence, the death penalty would be warranted.

That's why I drew the similarity to the current Islamic terrorists. Their heretical views (that we are all infidels who deserve to submit or die) make them dangerous to the social order of Western civilization. If they can not be assimilated or be insulated from us, then death may be the only way to protect ourselves from them.

SD

1,178 posted on 03/22/2004 10:37:06 AM PST by SoothingDave
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