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Bishop Sanborn's Review of The Passion of the Christ
Catholic Restoration ^ | March 2004 | Most Reverend Donald J. Sanborn

Posted on 03/04/2004 6:25:40 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey

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The author of the article is a traditional Roman Catholic bishop. Formerly rector of the SSPX seminary in Ridgefield, Connecticut, he was one of the nine priests who left in 1983 in the dispute over the rubrics of the Mass to form the SSPV. He currently is rector of Most Holy Trinity Seminary in Florida.

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1 posted on 03/04/2004 6:25:41 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Viva Christo Rey
Let's try that again:

Catholic Restoration

Traditional Mass

2 posted on 03/04/2004 6:29:21 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Viva Christo Rey; Land of the Irish; autopsy; Canticle_of_Deborah; Maximilian; ultima ratio; ...
Ping!
3 posted on 03/04/2004 6:32:19 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: AAABEST
Ping!
4 posted on 03/04/2004 6:44:10 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Viva Christo Rey
I'm happy to see such a positive review.

I have one quibble about this point:

"c.. St. Mary Magdalene is portrayed as the woman caught in adultery whom Our Lord saved from stoning. This is not true. She was the woman who washed Our Lord's feet in the house of the Pharisee, and was the brother of Lazarus, whom Our Lord raised from the dead."

She is clearly identified only in Luke as the "woman from whom seven devils were driven out." This was the first encounter with Jesus, so she obviously cannot be the adulterous woman cited in John. However, as Mary from the town of Magdala she cannot also be Mary from the town of Bethany. She could very well have washed the feet of Jesus with her tears but again, that woman is not named. There were many women around Jesus. All the unnamed women do not have to be one and the same.

I'm open to changing my mind if given further info.

5 posted on 03/04/2004 7:20:17 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Viva Christo Rey; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
Overall rating: EXCELLENT. This film is nothing short of going and witnessing with one's own eyes the passion and death of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Another view!

6 posted on 03/04/2004 7:22:08 PM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Ping list, please email me.)
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To: Viva Christo Rey
Omissions. Surprisingly and sadly, there are a few omissions:

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c.. The statement by the Jews, "Let His blood be upon us and upon our children."

The statement is still in the film. Gibson chose not to have it in the subscript.

Concerning the INRI. Mel went to so much trouble to be accurate, but he didn't have it in Greek as well as Latin and Hebrew per Pilate's order.

Also, Mel had a BIG no-no when he showed the soldiers tear Christ's tunic in two before crucifying Him. Scripture - both the Gospel account and the Psalms it quotes - is VERY clear (for theological reasons) that the tunic, woven of one piece, remained intact. b.. The greatest inaccuracy is the flashback to Our Lord's life in Nazareth, where He is portrayed as a young man who (a) does not answer His mother when she calls; (b) is working on a table which is made improperly; (c) playfully splashes water in Our Lady's face as He is washing His hands. It is impossible that any of these things be true. The scene detracts from the film, and should be removed altogether.

I don't know why the author feels it is "inaccurate". Clearly imagination on the part of Mel. Non-scriptural but not necessarily anti-scriptural. If anything else, it allowed Mel to show Christ in His "hidden life" as a carpenter and the special relationship He had with his mother. Also, His humanity comes through in this scene from daily life. It introduced Mary in the movie visually, which seems to follow the events mostly through her eyes (sorrowful mysteries of the Rosary). I thought the scene worked well. It got people in the theatre to laugh. If ever a man laughed, Christ must have. From there on out, no laughing occurred.

7 posted on 03/04/2004 7:50:52 PM PST by TotusTuus
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To: Viva Christo Rey
SSPV? Is that another schismatic group? And Before you get on me for that, I respect SSPX, and if I lived in a few dioceses, I too would be forced to seek shelter and harbor in those groups as well. Just wondering. God Bless
8 posted on 03/04/2004 8:17:03 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: NWU Army ROTC; Religion Mod
Duplicate Post #9, please delete.
10 posted on 03/04/2004 8:17:47 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: TotusTuus
a table which is made improperly; (c) playfully splashes water in Our Lady's face as He is washing His hands.

The table is made to the specifications of "a rich man". I interpret Jesus's willingness to do such a thing as another dimension of his humility. Clearly the table prefigures the table in the Upper Room, as well as the Altar -- both of which antiquity would have considered too high for proper dining.

The splashing of Mary with water is a clear reference to the Asperges. I'm stunned that a Lefebvreite follower should not get this.

11 posted on 03/04/2004 8:23:18 PM PST by Romulus (Nothing really good ever happened after 1789.)
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To: TotusTuus
c.. The statement by the Jews, "Let His blood be upon us and upon our children."

The statement is still in the film. Gibson chose not to have it in the subscript.

Regarding this, I am not that sure, it could be, but it seems that a lot was edited out of the scene with Pilate. It was rather choppy with an editing, that seemed purposely unprofessional as if to say: "I had to cut something here guys ;-( "

I am thinking of the scene BEFORE the table flashback to Nazareth, when Our Lord glances at a carpenter with a chisel in Caiphas' courtyard - the carpenter who was already making His Cross before the hearing of His guilt or innocnece was finished. I think this was some material from the stigmatic, the Veneraable Ann Katherine Emmerich, that was deleted, only Mel wanted to keep the Nazareth scene so he had the briefest galnce and then a very choppy edit.

The music during the scenes with Pilate were also very choppy or fading in our out - did anyone else notice this or did I just catch a bad print?

As far as the author's views, they are the author's not my own. I thought the squatting at the table bit was a little silly but the wholse scene was appropriate - and YES, GOD DOES LAUGH - WELL HE CERTAINLY HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR!

Concerning the INRI. Mel went to so much trouble to be accurate, but he didn't have it in Greek as well as Latin and Hebrew per Pilate's order.

Yes, I caught this also. It would have been nice to also hear Pilate tell the Pharisees:

JOHN 19:22 Pilate answered: What I have written, I have written.

I had my own little list also, I guess we all had!

12 posted on 03/04/2004 8:28:27 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: NWU Army ROTC
SSPV? Is that another schismatic group?

Oh, if you mean is the SSPV another ***TRULY ROMAN CATHOLIC SOCIETY OF VALIDLY ORDAINED PRIESTS***, yes it is along wiht the CMRI and many other independent Roman Catholic priests!

:-)

I gave a brief pedigree, for those unfamiliar with the SSPV, but here is a bit more. In 1983 although Abp. Lefebvre still permitted the SSPX priests in Australia to use the unadulterated pre-Bugnini rubrics of the Mass, i.e the Saint Pius X rubrics, he forbade the SSPX priests in the U.S. from continuing to use them and ordered them to switch to the John23rd rubrics. Nine priests refused and he expelled them.

They then formed the SSPV which later fragmented in the early 1990's over the issue of whether the Holy See is vacant or its authority and occupation merely impeded.

13 posted on 03/04/2004 8:39:43 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Viva Christo Rey; NWU Army ROTC
Besides the other web sites I posted above for Bp. Sanborn and Fr. Cekada, here are the ones for:

Bp. Dolan, Saint Gertrude the Great

Society of Saint Pius V

Bp. Kelly of the SSPV

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And not connected to them but they are good Roman Catholic priests and I'll post them also:

Congregatio Mariae Reginae Immaculatae

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There is also the Istituto Mater Boni Consilii, an independent order of former SSPX Roman Catholic priests based in Europe and headquartered in Italy.

14 posted on 03/04/2004 8:58:29 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: NWU Army ROTC
Effectively, SSPV is a schism from the schism of SSPX. Sometimes it is hard to tell the schisms without a scorecard.
15 posted on 03/05/2004 12:02:45 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Viva Christo Rey
Great review!

Here's mine, which actually got printed in our local paper under letters to the editor:

Go and see the greatest story ever told.

"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." (John 15:13) "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." (Luke 23:34) "Behold, I make all things new!" (Revelation 21:5)

These verses make up the heart of "The Passion of the Christ." You may have heard them before, but after seeing this movie, you will never hear them in the same way again.

Theater doesn't reflect a culture as much as precede its future direction. Who controls the theater determines the future direction of society. Why? Because the theater is the greatest of all the arts, in that it so closely imitates life itself, and engages every aspect of human sensibility. For good or evil, the sights and sounds of the theater directly affect the soul. For the theater goer, intellectual examination of what has been taken in may or may not follow. Therefore, it is critical for the health of a society that what its members absorb through the theater be moral and uplifting.

At a time when the arts seem to have been captured by the demonic, we have been graced with a movie that conforms with the proper object of the medium. Most importantly, the subject matter of the movie is the greatest story ever told. Secondly, but just as important for the movie's success in changing hearts, the artistic quality of the film is of the highest order.

This movie is brutally honest. The characters are real. The setting is real. The dialogue is real. The pain is real. At no time was I conscious of watching a dramatization. Within a few minutes of the film's opening I felt that I was there with Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. I was there with Him at the scourging. I was there with Him at the crowning of thorns. I was there when they crucified my Lord.

There are several keys to the films realism, perhaps the most important being the use of the original languages. Another key is the characterizations of Jesus and Mary. Both are convincing. Unlike previous "Jesus movies," Jim Caviezal captured Jesus' dual nature perfectly. Jesus is neither too human nor too otherworldly. Mary's portrayal surpassed my expectations. In her there is no sentimentality. She courageously and stoicly embraces her cross. In one stunning scene Satan moves along the route to Calvary, mirroring Mary's movements. Mel Gibson is contrasting God's two greatest creations, Mary and her evil antithesis. Perhaps for this reason Mel cast a woman as Satan. The androgenous figure is striking not so much for its malevolence but for the fact that Satan appears as a shell of a being, something that once was but is no more.

Further heightening the realism are the many crowd scenes. The camera alternately takes the viewpoint of the crowd and the central characters. This is most effective when Jesus is carrying His cross. The camera places you in Jesus' position and then in the crowd. I could see and feel myself in both positions, sometimes as an innocent victim and sometimes as Jesus' antagonist, sometimes as a helpless bystander and sometimes as someone going along with the crowd.

Perhaps this is what makes the film so effective, in that it forces you to take a hard look at yourself and your own life. This lesson is reinforced with the portrayal of Simon of Cyrene. In Gibson's rendition, Simon is singled out by a Roman soldier to help Jesus carry the cross. At first unwilling and proudly indifferent, Simon eventually sympathizes with this man who is being so horribly brutalized. Eventually he summons the courage to defend Jesus against the sadistic soldiers. He is transformed by Jesus' suffering.

But what sets this movie apart from all other depictions of Jesus' life, above all else, is its unflinching portrayal of Jesus' brutalization. Jesus is sadistically beaten with canes, and then with a flagrum by His Roman captors. It is very difficult to watch. I wanted to shout, "God, make it stop!" And then when it appeared that Jesus was going to be released by His torturers, they began beating Him again. The effect is stunning. It breaks through your emotional defenses. It breaks you. "No greater love has a man..."

The effect continues through the Crucifixion, where the words, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" take on new meaning. This is superhuman, supernatural love. It is a transcendent moment, one of many in the greatest movie ever made.  


16 posted on 03/05/2004 5:11:12 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Romulus
The splashing of Mary with water is a clear reference to the Asperges.

What's that?

17 posted on 03/05/2004 5:13:48 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
Asperges by Gary D. Penkala

Asperges is the older name for the Rite of Blessing and Sprinkling Holy Water which is now an option at the beginning of Sunday Mass, replacing the Penitential Rite. The rite has its origins at least as early as the ninth century with Pope Leo IV. In the Tridentine Mass, the form was:

· Celebrant sprinkles the altar, himself, and assisting ministers with holy water.

· He sprinkles the people, either from the sanctuary or passing through the aisles.

· During this, the chanting includes:
The proper antiphon: Asperges me, Domine during the year, or Vidi aquam during the Paschaltide

Psalm 51:1 during the year, or Psalm 118:1 during Paschaltide

Gloria Patri (omitted during Passiontide)

The antiphon is repeated

· Celebrant sings versicles and prayer.


P: Asperges me
C: Domine, hyssopo, et mundabor: lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.


P: Thou shalt sprinkle me,
C: Lord, with hyssop and I shall be cleansed; thou shalt wash me, and I shall be made whiter than snow.
18 posted on 03/05/2004 7:04:44 AM PST by Romulus (Nothing really good ever happened after 1789.)
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To: Romulus
Thanks. I wish it was used more often.
19 posted on 03/05/2004 7:15:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Romulus
I agree with your assessments. I talked to some traditionalist friends of mine last Friday, and they didn't like that scene either. I agreed with their arguement that the culture of His time would have probably frowned on such an action. However, I thought the scene, overall, showed His submission to Mary.
20 posted on 03/05/2004 7:26:45 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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