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To: PeterdeVerona
It's difficult trying to convince a lot of people on this board that there is a clandestine war going on inside the church. I believe you, if no one else does - and I don't know much of anybody.
76 posted on 03/04/2004 9:06:47 PM PST by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Desdemona; saradippity; PeterdeVerona
It's difficult trying to convince a lot of people on this board that there is a clandestine war going on inside the church

It looks like I upset a lot of people with my last post. I'm sorry. I'm keeping my total computer time to one hour a day and I suppose I'm not being very thoughtful in my comments.

It's not that I don't believe a clandestine war is going on - the existence of RCF is proof enough of that. I guess where I part company with many here is that the pope is somehow the head of this invisible CIA. Spiritually, of course he's the head of our church and surely destined for sainthood. I don't know if it's his age or his style, but something has surely been lacking in his fight against the lavender mob.

It became very obvious to me way back in the 1980's that just about every priest who was then under forty was a flaming homosexual who cared little about traditional Catholic spirituality or values (i.e. the Rosary, the sanctity of life, marriage, the human body as a temple, etc.) We left McCarrick's Metuchen in disgust to return to Cardinal Krol's Philadelphia where Satan had not been so busy. Couldn't the Holy Father see this as well? Apparently not, because he ultimately made McCarrick the Cardinal of Washington,D.C.

I know the gates of hell will not prevail against the Bride of Christ and things are slowly, but surely turning around. But during this time, millions of souls have been lost through poor leadership and catechesis.

JPII has always been a personal hero of mine and it hurts when I see him being so ineffective in dealing with the likes of Mahoney and Bernadin's boys. Why not call Mahoney to Rome and put him at a desk job? How hard would that be? That way the pope could put an actual Catholic at the helm of LA.

Saradippity is right to say the publishing of the new catechism is a tool that can prevent more error from being taught. And I would be remiss if I didn't point to the luminous mysteries as another powerful weapon in the war against Satan.

So do I believe St. Michael the Archangel is leading the battle against Satan in our Church? Absolutely. Do I believe the Holy Father has a secret service spying for him? No. Because if he were doing any kind of concrete management of the crisis, he could have done more than give the laity weapons to fight the very hierarchy that rule at his pleasure.

Sadly, my time is up and I won't be able to check back here until tomorrow.

84 posted on 03/05/2004 6:51:09 AM PST by old and tired (Go Toomey! Send Specter back to the Highlands!)
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To: Desdemona
It's difficult trying to convince a lot of people on this board that there is a clandestine war going on inside the church.

I think everyone agrees on that point. The big question is "Who is on which side?"

I might disagree slightly about the "inside" part. Within the first week or two of Vatican II, Cardinal Ottaviani, the predecessor to Cardinal Ratzinger, had his microphone turned off while he was trying to stop the takeover of the council by the radical members. Since that time there has been no united bloc of conservatives within the hierarchy. The opposition has been forced to use guerilla tactics because all the positions of power are in the hands of the enemy.

109 posted on 03/05/2004 5:05:55 PM PST by Maximilian
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