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To: PeterdeVerona
I suppose you believe Karol Wojtyla himself supports the "Lavender Mafia," right? I'm sorry I can't convince you that there are in fact people in the Church fighting this corruption, and have been for a long time now, and that much of what they do is, and must remain, secret.

You're entirely too cryptic to be believable. I want to believe the Pope's got some undercover spies weeding out the evil, but I don't. I admire, respect, and love JPII. I believe he (along with Ronald Reagan) is responsible for the fall of the evil Soviet empire, but I think he has done a less than stellar job as an administrator.

It seems to me the Vatican acts with astonishing speed when it comes to disciplining the FSSP, but all sorts of atrocities are committed "in the Spirit of Vatican II" and the Vatican remains silent.

Jesus didn't say "let's convene a meeting to discuss this whole temptation thing." He said "get thee behind me Satan!" And in that vein, the pope doesn't need double top secret undercover spies to disband the USCCB, censure the Jesuits, tell that idiot bishop out in California that the Gospels are a true account, and excommunicate Mahoney for diminshing the Real Presence.

It saddens me to say so, but I don't think it can be denied that Satan's AmChurch grew and flourished under JPII's reign.

69 posted on 03/04/2004 6:39:50 PM PST by old and tired (Go Toomey! Send Specter back to the Highlands!)
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To: old and tired
"the pope doesn't need double top secret undercover spies to disband the USCCB, censure the Jesuits, tell that idiot bishop out in California that the Gospels are a true account, and excommunicate Mahoney for diminshing the Real Presence."

A story like that would make a great next movie for Mel Gibson. He could call it "Road to Damascus Warrior."
70 posted on 03/04/2004 7:17:24 PM PST by dsc
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To: old and tired
Jesus didn't say "let's convene a meeting to discuss this whole temptation thing." He said "get thee behind me Satan!" And in that vein, the pope doesn't need double top secret undercover spies to disband the USCCB, censure the Jesuits, tell that idiot bishop out in California that the Gospels are a true account, and excommunicate Mahoney for diminshing the Real Presence.

Well said.

80 posted on 03/05/2004 6:31:53 AM PST by johnb2004
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To: old and tired
It saddens me to say so, but I don't think it can be denied that Satan's AmChurch grew and flourished under JPII's reign.

I disagree. It still subsists now, but the 'growth' and 'flourishment' occurred during the reigns of Pius XII, John XXIII, and Paul VI.

101 posted on 03/05/2004 3:59:36 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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