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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Right you are! Few can understand the connection between homosexual abuse and dissent in general. The homosexual abuse is but one symptom of a greater crisis facing the Church.

This is a letter to the editor from Seattle Catholic:

Investigating Hubbard (2/25/04)
Editor:

Your link to the timesunion.com story, "Pope asked to search bishop's files", by Brian Nearing, reveals the extraordinary corruption of a diocese in trouble ... even a Vatican in trouble.

Quoting the last paragraph,

When asked about the letter, diocesan spokesman Kenneth Goldfarb said, "That Mr. Aretakis sent his letter to the local news media and the Vatican at the same time tells you everything you need to know about his real agenda."
Aretakis is the lawyer seeking files on Bp Hubbard of Albany, and he sent to the Vatican requesting the Pope review the secret files.

Albany diocesan spokesman Kenneth Goldfarb tells us that the simultaneous letter to both the Vatican and the media reveal Aretakis' "real agenda".

Of course it does; this is the whole point of what the present Church catastrophe is all about. Obviously Goldfarb has his head somewhere where the sun don't shine ... let me rephrase this more politely. Goldfarb and his ilk don't seem to grasp the meaning of evil, and prefer to go on promoting it.

The facts include the growing lack of trust in anything said by anyone in the Vatican, and, even easier to perceive, the utter absense of anything trustworthy to come out of some dioceses ... unless homosexuality as a clandestine occupation by clergy because they "didn't know it was wrong" is a basis for trusting the very same clergy who promote this heinous idea.

How could anyone believe such complete deception coming out of some organization, let alone what God has provided us to be the most trustworthy of all organizations?

Some of these bishops and their evil minions are so preposterous ... but it reminds me of the notorious treachery used in so costly a way by the late Adolf Hitler, which is the big lie: The bigger the lie, the more people will be deceived by it. I think also that the late Joseph Stalin employed this propaganda strategy, not to mention the Devil himself speaking to Adam and Eve, and to all others who would believe that there is something greater than God who alone can give life or take it.

These twisted prelates and associates in religious crime make common criminals such as bank robbers and murderers look good. These two crimes against the Ten Commandments are perhaps the only ones not being commited by these evil bishops who claim naiivitae ... and even these are appearing to be a part of their wicked actions; after all, priests are turning up dead every few years, and these are priests who have been at odds publically against the lavender mafia clergy.

That the Vatican does not want to intervene is a shame of shameful things.

Aretakis is making a good move by getting the media in on this. Why? Because even the anti-Church media is more trustworthy and moral than some of these dioceses and much, it appears, of the Vatican.

For a population of a diocese to allow this foul play to keep happening does not speak well of the character of such people of such dioceses. It bears false witness of their moral fellow Catholics and against Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and all of creation and the whole Holy Trinity.

These are some of the foulest stench of people in history perpetrating this homosexual way of life replete with pedophilia.

Lapping up pig pens for all eternity would be too good for them in my opinion.


12 posted on 03/04/2004 7:42:03 AM PST by johnb2004
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To: johnb2004
Aretakis is making a good move by getting the media in on this. Why? Because even the anti-Church media is more trustworthy and moral than some of these dioceses and much, it appears, of the Vatican.

The Holy Spirit knows what tools to use, even the unwitting Fourth Estate as a surgeon.

14 posted on 03/04/2004 7:50:04 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: johnb2004
In fact, when Roman Catholic Faithful informed the Vatican about the corruption of Bp. Daniel Ryan, one of Bernadin's Boys, it did nothing. Finally RCF went public and notified the media that this guy was picking up male prostitutes, some of them underage. RCF forced the bishop to resign in disgrace--no thanks to the Vatican which apparently had no interest in taking action on its own. Ditto with Weakland whose resignation at age 75 went unacted upon by the Vatican, despite a zillion complaints from the faithful. Only when his love affair with a priest was publicized, as well has his malfeasance in using diocesan funds to coverup his own grubby behavior, did the Vatican act with dispatch. Within days his resignation was accepted. Translation: the complaints of the laity mean nothing and justice itself means nothing. The Vatican only acts against prelates when confronted with bad publicity--or when the individuals involved are traditionalists.
20 posted on 03/04/2004 8:15:11 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: johnb2004; Siobhan; american colleen; rcath60; Desdemona
Aretakis is making a good move by getting the media in on this. Why? Because even the anti-Church media is more trustworthy and moral than some of these dioceses and much, it appears, of the Vatican.

Speaking of Aretakis, here are some of the comments from the 'exclusive' interview conducted by a local media affiliate with him today.

He was raised Greek Orthodox, is married and they have a 5 year old child. He has 2 law degrees from Albany Law School and Georgetown Law School. He is a trial lawyer.

In 1995, he represented a client on a sex abuse case and won. He became so immersed in the sex abuse scandal through this client that he made a personal commitment to do whatever was necessary to identify those priests who had committed these moral offenses and stop its spread.

For the past 2 years, he has not made a dime and is working off the winnings from that lawsuit. He currently represents 80 clients and expects that there are years of work ahead of him.

When Hubbard stepped up to the microphone on Feb.4, he changed the dynamics of the current situation by making personal statements. At that meeting, Aretakis distributed copies of the 'henry' letter to the media. He said that he had that letter in his possession for the past 1 1/2 years and never knew the identity of 'henry'. Hubbard's own admissions raise serious questions of credibility.

There were no earth shattering revelations. This is the NBC affiiate in Albany. The one that has been on top of the situation is the ABC affiliate - WTEN.

That's it for now.

64 posted on 03/04/2004 3:42:37 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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