Murdered Catholic Priest Knew Too Much?

Catholic Online ^ | March 3, 2004 | Matt Abbott

[Siobhan]

And let's be frank. Some of them are satanists. Some are communists. Some serve other secret societies. Many groups spent the entire 20th century trying to infiltrate the Church and making alliances even with their own enemies in order to defeat the greater enemy, Holy Mother Church. The smoke of satan entered the Church alright, and one of the places it took up residence was in Chicago, and another was Los Angeles, and then there was Albany.....

[ninenot]

Yeah--at least I THINK I do. He and Fr. Fiore worked a radio show which was largely catachetical/apologetics.

Produced by a guy in south-central Wisconsin (Monroe, I think) who's an acquaintance of BlackElk.

IIRC, there's not much on the radio tapes that's in the LEAST bit controversial or exceptional, and certainly not directly germane to this event.

[ninenot]

Same network confirmed by Malachi Martin/Windswept.

[ninenot]

love affair with a priest was publicized

Technical correction: the lover was an individual who wished to become a seminarian. The guy is also a grifter of the first water--the 'hush money' was the final straw.

[undirish01]

Stephen Brady needs a theme or cacthphrase for his website:

"You touch-a our faith, we'll break-a your legs!"

[ninenot]

Weakland was a problem, alright...but the Vatican's lack of "fire the SOB" sentiments has to do with a significant difference.

In most of the cases we've heard of, Bishops are alleged to be sinning against the 6th Commandment--or covering for those who do.

The Vatican will not fire someone for un-proven allegations of sexual sin, particularly if they do not cause grave scandal (and most of the allegations have not.)

The Vatican will not fire someone for following "professional advice" that the perp is cured, or should be placed 'out of contact' with children, whatever.

But the Vatican WILL fire someone for misappropriating funds, as in the case of Weakland. In that case, it was admitted (thus proven) that he had used $450K of Archdiocesan money to cover his own butt for an indiscretion. That's a big deal...

[ninenot]

The Church really should have its own criminal investigation unit at this point.

Don't underestimate the Swiss Guard. Not all of them wear funny suits and carry halberds, you know.

Tom Clancy has a LOT of respect for that outfit.

But it is true that they don't have 200 people 'on the ground' in the USA, permanently.

[ultima ratio]

I believe he was an ordained priest.

[ultima ratio]

The charges against Weakland needed no proof. The Vatican only had to enforce its own retirement rule and accept his resignation at age 75. Instead it refused to take action and left him in place until the scandal broke. The same with Cardinal Law. He ought to have been removed, not for personal corruption, but for ineptitude. Instead his offer of resignation was rejected. Later, after the scandal intensified, it was accepted. The Vatican is never biased on the side of the faithful, always on the side of the prelates.

[ultima ratio]

While we're getting paranoid, let's not forget the sudden demise of JPI. That too was strange.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

But the Vatican WILL fire someone for misappropriating funds, as in the case of Weakland. In that case, it was admitted (thus proven) that he had used $450K of Archdiocesan money to cover his own butt for an indiscretion. That's a big deal... 46 posted on 03/04/2004 9:54:49 AM PST by ninenot

Sodomy, Dissent, Bribery, Corruption, and Wreckovation - the dark underbelly of the radical neo-modernism gutting the Church.

[saradippity]

You have identified another act of Divine Providence. Had Weakland been removed prior to the information from his paramour,he would have gone with great glory and greater press.

And those of us who knew what he represented would have looked like the nasty,bitter,ugly,jealous losers they try to convince the world that we are,as we tried to get our true story to the public.

The way it happened increased our credibility and diminished his.God works in mysterious ways. Thank God.

[ninenot]

Look it up in www.jsonline.com archives yourself.

The grifter was NOT an ordained priest--not even a seminarian.

[Antoninus]

Sodomy, Dissent, Bribery, Corruption, and Wreckovation - the dark underbelly of the radical neo-modernism gutting the Church.



And let's not forget groteque hubris....

Archbishop Weakland, whose humility is an inspiration to us all, is featured in this bronze sculpture along with Cathedral rector Fr. Carl Last and St. John the Evangelist.

[ultima ratio]

You're right, he's not a priest. He went to see Weakland twenty years ago because he wanted to study for the priesthood. My mistake, I confused this case with another.

[ultima ratio]

That may be, but the Church at large needed another scandal like a hole in the head.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Why is any of this disgusting crap happening in our church?

And in other churches.

It's happening because in the 21st century, homosexuality trumps religion, morality, common sense, safety and God.

In the short run, anyway.

In the long run, they are all damned.

[HarleyD]

This is so sad but as I was reading the article it sounded like a movie. I couldn't help thinking they'll need to make it look as though the RCC and the intolerant conservative priest was the cause of his death.

[johnb2004]

The Vatican will not fire someone for un-proven allegations of sexual sin, particularly if they do not cause grave scandal (and most of the allegations have not.)

Are you serious? There are so much grave scandals today that I can't count them.

[ninenot]

Well, you've hit on the hard part of the formula. It is quite clear that ALLEGATIONS are not sufficient--on that we can both agree. It's also clear that the excuse: "I did what the shrinks said was best!" is sufficient--that is, the Bishop will not be removed for this. So what's a GRAVE scandal? I don't know. Pictures on the front page, maybe, with a cleric in flagrante delicto.