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Please Max,get a copy of "The Final Conclave" by Malachai Martin. The first 113 pages are a commentary with lots of documenntation about the state of the Church in 1978.It was published in 1978 on the death of Paul VI,who had been Pope for sixteen years. The last pages,115 to the end,are fiction and are Martin's musings on how that conclave will proceed. Rather interesting but not necessary reading.

I read it when it first came out but it was so shocking that I could not bear to try to understand how dire the picture actually was. I had a difficult job,three boys I was raising alone,major injuries sustained in an automobile accident and a personal life that was troubled so it didn't really penetrate,I think the Holy Ghost was protecting me.

Anyhow,picking it up a couple weeks ago and rereading it,confirmed everything I had observed and experienced and concluded over the 26 years.The Church in the English speaking countries is in serious trouble because it was planned that way and Paul had had 16 years to to sow the seeds in soil that had been fertilized since at least 1917. He quite possibly saw the error late in his papacy but by then things had gotten so out of hand he was unable to act.

I will just give you one line which follows a description of what the conclave that selected John Paul I as well as JOhn Paul II was facing due to the wager Paul had made about the world as it would be in the future. Paul made the decision to tailor a church that would attract the "new man",his appointments and actions were in keeping with the plan or plot.After this description he states new Pope will face "THE BREAK WITH THE LONG PAST IS ALREADY COMPLETED,AND HE WILL KNOW IT".In other words Pope John Paul II has had to try to turn the Church around in an environment that was riddled with land mines planted all over the place.

I really get furious with the constant sniping from the Modernists/Progressives as well as those on the other side,please read the book.If you read it and find reason to disagree with me about John Paul II after reading it,I will be very surprised. I think you will see that he has been a great Pope and tried against tremendous odds to give us back our Church and I think he will succeed in our lifetimes.

Please Max,get a copy of "The Final Conclave" by Malachai Martin.

I read it many years ago. Don't remember too much. Probably most of the roman a clef elements went right over my head at the time.

I think you will see that he has been a great Pope and tried against tremendous odds to give us back our Church and I think he will succeed in our lifetimes.

That is the last thing this pope wants. He has stated publicly time and time again that he is committed 110% to the implementation of Vatican II. From this principle he has never deviated one iota. Never in any way has JPII ever indicated in the slightest that he wants to return in any way to the Church as it was before Vatican II. If someone were to say that JPII is trying to return the Church to the way it used to be, he would accuse that person of slander, and rightly so.