To: Catholicguy; ultima ratio; TotusTuus; Tantumergo; NYer; Desdemona; american colleen; sinkspur; ...
Very well done, OP.
A PING to a few of the Catholic Raucus for their consideration.
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02/25/2004 5:06:52 AM PST by
drstevej
To: BlackElk; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; Catholicguy; drstevej; ...
So, I'm going to go ahead and tell you what Protestants mean by "Faith Alone Saves" -- particularly Calvinists, who maintain the Reformers' doctrines most closely of the various Protestant traditions.
OP, having read your post, I see what is seemingly a good foundation for a debate. It may very well gain for you what you'd like to get out of it, and I hope it will. For me, a Catholic, I feel compelled to point out that my church, that is, the CHURCH of THE APOSTLES (the authors of
TRADITION with the Holy Spirit's guidance -- you know keys, Peter), The Bride of Our Lord Jesus Christ, is where literally billions¹ have placed their trust as to having the right answers to the questions which we ask in order to lead us to Him.
Hopefully you can appreciate a non-apologetics thought about your commentary (even if it is not what you were looking for). I wish I had more time to read, and participate in subsequent posts, but the day's tasks beckon. FReegards!
¹ I, and a number of other FReepers are included in that tally :-)
To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian
"So we see that, to the Calvinist, Faith by definition incorporates three crucial facets:
Notitia or Mind -- Knowledge of Jesus Christs Lordship
Assensus or Heart -- Acknowledgment of Jesus Christs Lordship
Volitio or Will -- Reverent Submission to Jesus Christs Lordship"
Doesn't sound very Calvinist to me - Assensus and Volitio are good works by any other name. I think you guys are all just closet Arminians after all!!!
;)
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