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The grace Mary received was before her natural conception. She was going to need the grace, because she was going to be a human. God knew that all the humans were going to need grace, His grace, to be able to be near Him. He knew this ahead of time and so He gave Mary His grace before she was naturally conceived.

Gabriel has not refuted that. He said to Mary, in Luke 1:28, "Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you." Present tense. Mary had the fullness of grace according to Gabriel, God's messenger.

289 posted on 02/21/2004 10:42:25 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)

Sorry I cannot continue. My wife is home and .... Since I don't have a phone, I will not be back for many days. May God bless you, brother!