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To: TopQuark
Retribution? No, this cannot be: nothing Fox says about the movie is anti-Christian, so retribution to what?

I'd say it's pretty anti-Christian for Foxman to slander Gibson as an anti-Semite for making a movie true to the Gospels.

Frankly, I can't figure out why Foxman is going after Gibson like this, unless he figured that if he hit Gibson early and often no one would go to see his movie. Instead, in reaction to his attacks, Gibson started marketing the film to Christian groups, creating unprecedented interest in seeing the film. As a couple of columnists have recently pointed out, if the purpose of Foxman's attacks was to squash the film, he's managed to do exactly the opposite. On the other hand, maybe I'm giving Foxman too much credit. Maybe the purpose of attacking Gibson is to spur frantic donations to the ADL, which this film has certainly done.

5 posted on 02/20/2004 9:39:53 PM PST by DentsRun
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To: DentsRun
unless he figured that if he hit Gibson early and often no one would go to see his movie.

He probably figured that with the accusation of anti-Semitism, Mel would collapse from a case of "the vapors," like most famous people these days.

21 posted on 02/21/2004 8:15:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: DentsRun
Anti-Defamation League needs MONEY = fundraising!

ADL

"Over the last 2000 years, four words have fueled anti-Semitism: 'The Jews killed Christ.' We are concerned about this message wrapped up in a popular film that's couched as gospel truth and produced by a popular, creative genius." -- Abraham H. Foxman

32 posted on 02/21/2004 8:53:38 AM PST by kcvl
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To: DentsRun
I'd say it's pretty anti-Christian for Foxman to slander Gibson as an anti-Semite for making a movie true to the Gospels.

That is exactly my point. It is pretty anti-Gibson for Foxman to slander Gibson --- why do you say it is anti-Christian? Is it also anti-male? Anti-brunet Anti-people-over-thirty?

And, furhter, I am no friend or admirer of Foxman --- to me he is not a Jew but a leftist who forgot his Jewish roots --- but most Christians I hear offended by his words do not really understand what he says.

Nor do they understand why Jews are apprehensive and dismiss it as unfounded paranoia. This is true especially with respect to those truly Chirstian, good souls that cannot comprehend the full scale of evil. You have to be beaten in the street, with baseball bats, by a crowd leaving the Easter Mass where THE JEWS just killed the son of G-d. For centuries, Jewisn mothers would not let the children outside during Easter week.

I know that America is now different, although anyone who gre up in the 1950s still remembers much of that. I know that the best friends of Israel are Christian (they are much better friends, and for the right reason, than many Jews). But this is also very new, while the past is long.

More importantly, that is how things change to the worse: you expect it coming, and do nothing. Many Jews --- overestimating the dangers in my opinion --- try to prevent that mistake: a rise of anti-Semitism while they did nothing.

Hope this helps. And, although Foxman has GREAT many sins, neither he is anti-Christian in general, nor did he say anything anti-Christian about this whole affair.

48 posted on 02/21/2004 4:45:05 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: DentsRun
You may find this to be an interesting addition to #48: this too comes from the ADL:

Jews Urge Christians to Stand Up to Persecution--"Learn from our example," they urge

51 posted on 02/21/2004 4:50:38 PM PST by TopQuark
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