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To: Texas2step
>>Most people consider the revisionistic views of Hutton Gibson to be equal to Holocaust Denial - Christians and non-Christians. It's not like hutton's concerned over whether it was 5 million or 6 million, but whether it was in the millions at all, or even hundreds of thousands. To me, that alone makes him crazy and a conspiracty nut. To Jews it is denying what actually took place. I'm pretty much in agreement that it is the equivalent.

I disagree. It's one thing to deny that the Holocaust happened. That's holocaust denial. It's quite another thing to question the "6 million" figure that is often quoted. I'm more concerned with historical fact than "offending" people.

Anti-semitism, like racism, is a term that is widely overused by leftists to smear their opposition. Such is the case with the study of the Holocaust. It has become taboo to question any aspect of it. You either buy the "6 million Jews" line or you're "anti-Semitic". In some countries, you can go to jail for daring to question certain aspects of the Holocaust. It's getting ridiculous.

96 posted on 02/20/2004 7:33:11 AM PST by dixiepatriot
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To: dixiepatriot
Defending hutton's views is not wise, IMO.

In his interview on WSNR radio's Speak Your Piece, to be broadcast on Monday, Hutton Gibson, argued that many European Jews counted as death camp victims of the Nazi regime had in fact fled to countries like Australia and the United States.

"It's all - maybe not all fiction - but most of it is," he said

These are defensible statements? This is not denial? To me, it's absolutely loony, but to a Jew, yes, I beleive this is equal to denial.
97 posted on 02/20/2004 7:38:03 AM PST by Texas2step (Reformed passion thread instigator ... but don't tell anyone.)
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To: dixiepatriot
Anti-semitism, like racism, is a term that is widely overused by leftists to smear their opposition. ... It has become taboo to question any aspect of it. You either buy the "6 million Jews" line or you're "anti-Semitic". ... It's getting ridiculous.

And, I agree with everyone statement from that comment. But, hutton's position is indefensible. It's perfect fine, IMO, to disagree over minutia. The difference between 5 million and 6 million.

Whether the non-Jews count as Holocaust victims, etc., etal, that, to me at least, is minutia. Hutton's comments are not over minutia.
99 posted on 02/20/2004 7:41:53 AM PST by Texas2step (Reformed passion thread instigator ... but don't tell anyone.)
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To: dixiepatriot
I disagree. It's one thing to deny that the Holocaust happened. That's holocaust denial. It's quite another thing to question the "6 million" figure that is often quoted. I'm more concerned with historical fact than "offending" people.

Hutton says it didn't happen, that engineering the Holocaust was technically infeasable, and that 6 million Jews simply moved from Poland to Brooklyn and LA, or his alternate version they went to Israel, emigration being the source of the Holohoax, in Hutton's opinion. His firmly held opinions should be condemned, not minimized.

117 posted on 02/20/2004 8:26:03 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: dixiepatriot
Concise...I agree largely.
245 posted on 02/20/2004 5:00:35 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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