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To: Maximilian
No, counting the people who were attending Mass at the time of Vatican II, 80% have voted with their feet to reject Vatican II and all it stands for, most especially the atrocious "New Mass." And those who still go are generally very dissatisfied with the state of the Church. One would be a lot closer to the truth to say "Vatican II has been universally rejected except by a small coterie of liberals, especially in the hierarchy, who are quickly dying out, thank God."

How do you account for the one billion Catholics who belong to the Church today?

Your interpretation of the situation is, of course, your interpretation.

The number of people who attend the Tridentine Mass in the United States is less than a million; the number of Catholics is over 62 million.

73 posted on 02/20/2004 6:57:46 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
The majority has never been right.

Check out what our Heavenly Father told Gideon...

Judges 7:2 And the LORD said unto Gideon, "The People that are with thee are too many for ME to give the Midianites into the hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, "Mine own hand hath saved me.'

Then our Heavenly Father did some thinning.
79 posted on 02/20/2004 7:04:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: sinkspur
How do you account for the one billion Catholics who belong to the Church today?

That's just the number of people who identify themselves as Catholics or who were born Catholic. But how many of those do even so much as the 6 basic things required of all Catholics such as attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of obligation, go to confession at least once per year, contribute to the support of the Church, fast and abstain on the required days, etc.?

The number of people who attend the Tridentine Mass in the United States is less than a million; the number of Catholics is over 62 million.

People aren't aware that there is an alternative. I wasn't aware of the alternative for many years. People feel trapped in their Novus Ordo hell where they get to hear heresy from the pulpit and off-key lounge singing accompanied by guitars. They just stop going. That has been the decision of the large majority of Catholics, "Just say no."

81 posted on 02/20/2004 7:07:35 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: sinkspur; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
"The number of people who attend the Tridentine Mass in the United States is less than a million; the number of Catholics is over 62 million."

Whoa "deacon". If the Bishops OBEYED ROME and made the Indult easily available, then what? For 20 years after V2 people were DENIED the Latin Mass. Abp. L's courage forced an Indult and most American Bishops ignored Rome's clear answer - the Indult remains a small, often ignored part of the question. Too many of the "bishops" in "union" with Rome ran seminaries for queers while booting true, heterosexual and orthodox vocations. Read Michael Rose in Good Bye Good Men. "Union" with sodomites and satanist may satisfy your self proclaimed legalism, but for my family WE REJECT that perversion of God's Church.
275 posted on 02/21/2004 4:55:30 AM PST by narses (If you want OFF or ON my Ping list, please email me.)
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