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To: Texas2step; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; TradicalRC
"Do you agree with this author of this delusional article?"

The only thing about the article that I find 'delusional' is the idea that Mel Gibson gathered together his 'co-conspirators' and proceeded to make a movie to offend the Gospel. If you fail to find the facts that are presented in the article troubling, then you are likely "an outsider looking in" on this forum.

Pornography? According to God's word, showing your nakedness to any but your spouse is Pornea.

86 posted on 02/19/2004 9:43:47 AM PST by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
If you fail to find the facts that are presented in the article troubling, then you are likely "an outsider looking in" on this forum.

I do find the so-called "facts" troubling as presented in this article. I am not sure what you mean by "outsider", so possibly you may be correct there, but I sure cannot confirm it for you.

If you want to debate the "facts" I find troubling, they are listed in comments #49 and #52. Let's discuss that, rather than what you believe I believe.
88 posted on 02/19/2004 10:00:47 AM PST by Texas2step (Reformed passion thread instigator ... but don't tell anyone.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The only thing about the article that I find 'delusional' is the idea that Mel Gibson gathered together his 'co-conspirators' and proceeded to make a movie to offend the Gospel.

So you agree that the "Principal Figure" in a movie about Christ is somone other than Christ?

You agree that it is some great deception to describe the movie as depicting the "last twelve hours of Christ's earthly life"?

You agree that traditional Catholics tend to espouse Gnostic notions about the importance of Mary Magdalene in the life of Christ?

Are you sure only 1 thing is "delusional" in this article?

SD

90 posted on 02/19/2004 10:09:43 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: editor-surveyor
"Pornography? According to God's word, showing your nakedness to any but your spouse is Pornea."

Though I understand your stance on the evil of porn and it's ability to greately hinder ones road to holiness, this statement is not altogether accurate.

54 times in the Old Testament - Nakedness - OT:6172
`ervah (er-vaw'); from OT:6168; nudity, literally (especially the pudenda) or figuratively (disgrace, blemish):


OT:6168
`arah (aw-raw'); a primitive root; to be (causatively, make) bare; hence, to empty, pour out, demolish:

KJV-leave destitute, discover, empty, make naked, pour (out), rase, spreadself, uncover.

Naked - 16 times - OT:6174
`arowm (aw-rome'); or `arom (aw-rome'); from OT:6191 (in its original sense); nude, either partially or totally:
and...
OT:6191
`aram (aw-ram'); a primitive root; properly, to be (or make) bare; but used only in the derivative sense (through the idea perhaps of smoothness) to be cunning (usually in a bad sense):

New Testament:1130
gumniteuo (goom-niyt-yoo'-o) or gumneteuo (goom-nayt-yoo'-o); from a derivative of NT:1131; to strip, i.e. (reflexively) go poorly clad:

KJV-be naked.

NT:1131
gumnos (goom-nos'); of uncertain affinity; nude (absolute or relative, literal or figurative):

KJV-naked.

NT:1132
gumnotes (goom-not'-ace); from NT:1131; nudity (absolute or comparative):

KJV-nakedness.

NT:1131
gumnos (goom-nos'); of uncertain affinity; nude (absolute or relative, literal or figurative):

KJV-naked.

There are many examples of naked/nakedness in the Word that are not "Pornea"





111 posted on 02/19/2004 6:04:45 PM PST by wwcj
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To: editor-surveyor
I think this is the word/words you were meaning to define.

Strong's Number: 4202 porneia
Text: from 4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively, idolatry: --fornication.

Strong's Number: 1608 ekporneuo
Text: from 1537 and 4203; to be utterly unchaste: --give self over to fornication.

Strong's Number: 4203 porneuo
Text: from 4204; to act the harlot, i.e. (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practise idolatry: --commit (fornication).

Strong's Number: 4204 porne
Text: feminine of 4205; a strumpet; figuratively, an idolater: --harlot, whore

Strong's Number: 4205 pornos
Text: from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of 4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine): --fornicator, whoremonger.
112 posted on 02/19/2004 6:20:42 PM PST by wwcj
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