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To: sheltonmac
I did a paper on how people were saved during Old Testament times and while doing so I came across this quote by Charles Fred Lincoln in Bibliotheca Sacra 100:397(Jan 1943) p. 135:

Therefore, in spite of the multitude of texts which place the “old covenant” of the law of Moses in direct contrast with the “new covenant” of grace in Christ, showing that the one was a failure and the other superseded it (comp. Jer 31:31–34; Heb 8:7–12, etc), in order to maintain the unbroken continuity of the Covenant of Grace, they are forced to the unscriptural and untenable position of saying that the Law of Moses was a part of the grace covenant.

That, I believe, is a pretty good reason to reject Covenant Theology.

25 posted on 02/06/2004 1:14:26 PM PST by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: ksen
***Charles Fred Lincoln ***

BTW: I lived in Lincoln Hall my first year at Dallas Seminary. Pretty spartan, but CFL's legacy lives on.

I do believe that the nature of the Mosaic Covenant is also a watershed issue between Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism.
28 posted on 02/06/2004 1:21:06 PM PST by drstevej
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To: ksen
Hey Ksen - Are you interpreting the Old/New Covenants primarely in terms of their content or by whom they were made with?

I would suggest Covenant Theology does the latter, which explains the "direct contrasts" passages while still allowing for an overarching moral continuity between the two. If the OT saints were saved by grace (in the Unconditional Election sense) as the NT saints are, then the symbol and observance differences between the two covenants are a moot point and we can begin arguing towards continuity. If, instead, the OT saints were saved through some level of adherence to those symbols and observances in the OT (in a Conditional Election sense) and not by grace (Unconditonal Election), then I can see Charles Fred Lincoln's point.

31 posted on 02/06/2004 1:28:06 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: ksen
That, I believe, is a pretty good reason to reject Covenant Theology.

Be careful or you might find yourself excommunicated from the GRPL.

34 posted on 02/06/2004 1:43:01 PM PST by connectthedots (Recognize that not all Calvinists will be Christians in glory.)
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To: ksen
I did a paper on how people were saved during Old Testament times...

How were people saved in old testament times? I get the distinct impression that they were not actually saved until new testament times. Did any man actually get to heaven before the man, Jesus?

35 posted on 02/06/2004 1:49:02 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG & FMOPWAODSDNPOPTML)
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To: ksen; drstevej
So, allow me to get this straight:

How, precisely, was an Old Testament Jew saved? On what basis?

43 posted on 02/06/2004 2:45:40 PM PST by jude24 (Would You like to Know God Personally? - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~tjminter/4laws/4laws.ppt)
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