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To: Religion Mod; P-Marlowe
Why was P-Marlowe's post #13 removed? It was directly on point as to the article. If you are not the real Religion Mod, at least let us know that it wasn't him/her who removed these posts.
17 posted on 02/06/2004 12:20:22 PM PST by connectthedots (Recognize that not all Calvinists will be Christians in glory.)
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To: sheltonmac; connectthedots; xzins; Vernon; Corin Stormhands; Revelation 911
From the Article:

According to Paul, the sinner is saved through faith; that is, he accepts as true what God declares in His word, he receives and rests upon Christ alone for his salvation. In this scheme, the sinner abandons all thought of somehow making himself acceptable to God and relies wholly upon what God provides for the sinner in Christ. But notice that even the faith itself is a gift from God, Paul states. This teaching is in harmony with what the Bible says about man in his fallen conditionhe is spiritually dead and cannot rouse himself or make himself righteous before God.

I don't think you will get any arguments from any Wesleyan on this subject. As Tozer so aptly puts it:

We pursue God because, and only because, He has first put an urge within us that spurs us to the pursuit. `No man can come to me,' said our Lord, `except the Father which hath sent me draw him,' and it is by this very prevenient drawing that God takes from us every vestige of credit for he act of coming. The impulse to pursue God originates with God, but the outworking of that impulse is our following hard after Him; and all the time we are pursuing Him we are already in His hand: `Thy right hand upholdeth me.' In this divine `upholding' and human `following' there is no contradiction. All is of God, for as von Hugel teaches, God is always previous.

I don't know why this was pulled before. If anyone can explain why this is offensive to anyone, please let me know.

21 posted on 02/06/2004 12:36:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG & FMOPWAODSDNPOPTML)
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