[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your reply and for introducing me to a new term, panentheism!

For several years I have been convinced that reality for us is a Space, Time, Energy, Mass box since it did not have these aspects, we could not perceive it. This does not mean the "box" is the total essence of REALITY, for REALITY exists beyond what we are able to perceive.

Indeed, that is the evidently designed limitation of our vision and mind! And as another observation, just as space and time are transformed, so are energy and mass (the famous Einstein equation).

[Vernon]

You are welcome...and I'm probably talking more than I really know at points. I just want to clarify that as with all things, there are extreme positions in every thing, or so it seems, and I DO NOT follow some of the extreme positions of some panentheists.