Replies

sigh-----Please note that I said before I would leave my church, I would work first to fix the problem. Why must you always twist what I say.

Also note, please, I am not saying one way or the other that things aren't being done to prevent this again. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. I want to know how gathering the data presented in this article will help fix the problem in the RCC. Why, this data is pertinent?

IMO, it seemed that no other reason then to get the monkey off the RCC and point fingers.

You had a different take on it, fine, that is your perogative. Very few of the posts I have recieved have been anything about the article. Most of them have just been personal flames. Don't get me wrong, I'm not whining or on a rant about that, if I was I would have pinged the Mod., I'm just point out the facts of the flames.

Can't you guys just discuss the article and then let it drop?

Becky

Dear PNAMBC,

"Also note, please, I am not saying one way or the other that things aren't being done to prevent this again. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. I want to know how gathering the data presented in this article will help fix the problem in the RCC. Why, this data is pertinent?"

Asked and answered.

Multiple times.

Read the posts.

"Most of them have just been personal flames."

Rather than trying to give the benefit of the doubt (a requirement of charity binding on all those who think they are Christians), you came into this thread with hostility that could easily be interpreted as anti-Catholicism.

If you would like, I will gather up all the obnoxious posts that you made when you entered into this discussion.

Your inappropriate, uncharitable posts got folks backs up. And then, after you attacked, when others gave it right back to you, you complained about others' lack of Christian response. LOL.

Many have offered you, right in this thread, the reasons why this was important work. Frankly, to me, some of the reasons are so obvious, that I can scarcely believe that you don't see or understand them. It is beyond a charitable explanation.

But even if it is in good faith that you can't understand these reasons in your own mind, try to step out of your own skin for a moment, and try to see it from our perspective. Give us the benefit of the doubt, that we, too, act in good faith.

If you cannot do that, then you have not met the obligation of Christian charity, in which case, you really ought to fall silent about others' charity or lack thereof.

sitetest

I've been following this conversation for the past couple days.

I'm one of the only people on this forum/caucus who has been a member of a parish where a priest was accused of abuse of any sort, and in my case it wasn't one, it was three - in a row. The first was laicized and is in prison and has been for 20 years. The second was a verbal abuser and an alcoholic. There were never legal charges against him, but he was still removed and laicized before dying of an alcohol induced brain hemorrage. The third was accused of something borderline but has been laicized. All were sent to us after previous incidents in the 70's and early 80's. All this happened before 1990. In some places the cleanup started long before the scandal itself hit.

My question to Becky is why is comparing the incidence of such abuse in the different segments of society such a problem? Everyone seems to be going through it and yet the segment that gets the most attention is Catholic priests.