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Why Does God Allow Evil? - Email from a Skeptic
Koinonea House Online ^ | Dr Mark Eastman

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:41:11 PM PST by xzins

In my experience, it is the most commonly asked question by honest skeptics: "If God is real, if God is personal, if God loves us, why does God allow evil?" A proper understanding of this issue not only provides great insight into the nature of God, it ties together a comprehensive understanding to some of life's ultimate questions: the answers to my origin, meaning, morality and destiny!

Email from A Skeptic

The question of evil was brought into clearer focus in an email I recently received from a skeptic:

The Christian worldview is an impractical, even phony, view of the Cosmos because it embraces a God who is either incapable of stopping evil and suffering, and he is therefore not omnipotent, or is unwilling to do so and therefore a devil!

The skeptic's point is well taken because the Bible states that one of God's attributes is love. "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." (I John 4:8) In the book of Romans, Paul the Apostle stated that the invisible attributes of God "are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead."1

However, what the skeptic is saying, in effect, is this: "If your God is love, I see no evidence of that attribute in creation. All the death, disease, pain and suffering seems to be out of place if this God of yours is love. Surely an all-powerful God could, and a loving God would, eliminate all evil. Since evil exists, then no such God exists."

To answer this objection we need to examine some principles of logic, the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of love and the nature of evil.

Evil and Moral Law

When someone states that they do not believe in God because a good God would not allow evil, they make a fatal error in logic. First, the recognition of evil is the recognition that certain actions are "right" and certain actions are "wrong." But how do we determine what actions are morally right and morally wrong? We discern this on the basis of a moral law: a universal sense that certain states of affairs are right and others are wrong. Even most atheists will admit that certain actions are universally wrong and, conversely, universally right.

For example, no one could seriously argue with the statement that it is better to love a child than to torture it. The point is that there is an innate, universal sense of right and wrong within all of us. What is the basis of this moral sense? Some would argue that it is based on cultural customs or traditions. But can this be so?

The famous atheist Bertrand Russell once debated a Christian who asked him if he believed in right and wrong. Russell replied "of course." Then he asked him how he determined what is right and wrong. Russell replied that he determined right and wrong on the basis of his feelings. His opponent replied, "Well, in some cultures they feel it is okay to eat you, and in others they don't. Which do you prefer." The point is that social customs, attitudes, traditions or feelings cannot determine a universal sense of right and wrong.

A universal sense of moral right and wrong can only come from a source outside of ourselves: a transcendent source, a moral Lawgiver. So the recognition of moral law is by default the recognition of a moral Lawgiver. To argue that the existence of evil proves that there is no God is equivalent to stating that the existence of moral law proves that there is no Lawgiver! It's like declaring that the Chrysler automobile that I drive proves without a doubt that there is no Chrysler Motor Company!

Atheists often present the problem of evil to theists as if it is a fatal argument for the existence of God. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, it is an absolutely unsolvable problem for the atheist. How does the atheist explain evil-the sense of moral right and wrong-in the absence of a moral Lawgiver? They can't! If there is no moral Lawgiver, then there is no way to explain the sense of moral wrong and moral right we all possess. C.S. Lewis said that evil is God's megaphone to a non-believing world. Evil speaks of moral law. Moral law demands a moral Lawgiver, and it is He that we call God!

Evil Often Begets Good

A second principle of logic we need to consider is the fact that an apparently evil state of affairs will often bring about an even better state of affairs. The problem is that we often do not recognize this fact until we have the advantage of hindsight. In my own field of medicine I see this on a daily basis: the process of childbirth, surgical intervention, and many medical therapies often present physical pain (an evil state of affairs according to non-theists), and yet they bring about an even better state of affairs: improved health. Physical pain is often highly beneficial as well. When a child touches a hot stove, the nervous system sends a neurological signal to the brain which is perceived as pain (a form of evil). Yet without that sense of pain, an even worse state of affairs would arise: the destruction of the limb.

The skeptic might object that while this provides a partial answer to the problem of evil, it does not address some of the most disturbing forms of evil: war, murder, rape, incest and the senseless death of the innocent.

God, Freedom, and Evil

The problem of human evil is rooted in the nature of God and the nature of love and the nature of mankind. I argued in last month's Personal UPDATE that God is a personal being because an impersonal force is an insufficient agent to create personal beings.2 What is the greatest passion of personal beings? I would argue that, above all else, personal beings desire personal relationships with other personal beings. So it makes sense that God, as a personal being, would desire to create us in such a way that He could have a meaningful, personal, and loving relationship with us. But this has a severe price.

Let us consider the nature of love and its consequences. I cannot experience love from you unless you have the capacity to do otherwise. If you have the capacity to not love me, and you choose instead to love me, then that choice has validity. It has meaning. You cannot have a love relationship with a computer. It is pre-programmed to serve you. Love requires choice: unencumbered choice. And that's where the problem lies.

When God created mankind, He too had a choice. If He created us as beings that were pre-programmed to follow and serve Him, there could be no love. But, if He created us with the capacity of choice, the capacity to love and serve Him, and the capacity not to do so, then there is the possibility of relationship: the possibility of real love. As a personal being with the capability of creating us in the first place, it makes sense that He would want to create us as personal beings with the capability of choice (free will) and, thus, the capability of love. But where there is choice and the capability of love, there is also the capability to choose wrong and to do great evil.

But the skeptic says, "why did God do this when he knew in advance that the result of free will would be so disastrous? Did this God of love not care that war, murder, rape and so much senseless violence would be the result of his choice to give us free will?" A real life illustration will help us to understand.

The Love of a Mother

During my 15 years as a physician I have seen an enormous amount of physical suffering. During that time I have had five children in my practice die by disease and injury. All of these children came from Christian families. Several months after the death of one of these children, the child's mother was in my office and was very distraught over her loss. She asked me, "Why did God allow this? I love God. Why did this happen?"

What could I say in this situation? Rather than providing an answer I asked her this question. "You have three children. One of them has died. If you could go back to the time before you had any children, with the knowledge that one of them would die this horrible death, would you have children again?"

After a long pause, with many tears in her eyes and a broken heart she said, "Oh yes. Oh yes. yes I would. Because, you see, the love and the joy and the happiness I have received from my children far outweighs the pain, suffering and misery I experienced from the loss of that one child. Oh yes. Oh yes. I would have children again."

In this tragic story we see an incredible insight as to why God allows evil to exist. As discussed earlier, a loving God can allow an evil state of affairs to exist if, in allowing it to occur, it brings about an even better state of affairs. For this woman, the loss of her child was an unequalled and tragic evil. But, with the advantage of hindsight, she said she would do it all again because the love she received as a result of being a mother outweighed the evil state of affairs in the death of her child.

In the hypothetical scenario I presented to this woman, with the advantage of hindsight (foreknowledge in this case) she was in a position comparable to God's before He created humankind. Because He is outside time and knows all things, He knew that there would be tremendous pain and suffering as a result of His decision to create a people with the capacity of choice and, consequently, the capacity to sin (moral evil).

But God, like this mother, knew that the love He and his human creatures would experience would outweigh the pain and suffering that would result from His decision to create us as He did. But the consequences of God's decision were not unforeseen. They were foreknown!

The Incredible Answer

The skeptic that emailed me stated, in effect, that if an all-powerful God did not eliminate evil, then He was a devil! The implication is that the removal of all evil would permit a better, more loving world. A truly loving God, the skeptics assert, would have desired and created such a world because it is clearly superior to the one we have. Any God that did not follow this logic was not a God of love, but an evil tyrant.

As we have seen, this logic crumbles under its own weight. The existence of evil is the "side effect" of creating a world with love. But as we have seen, there are compelling arguments that a world possessing both evil and love is superior to a world where neither is possible. For God to eliminate evil, He would have to eliminate our capacity of choice and thus our capacity to do both evil and good. And such a world is inferior to the one we have: one where love is possible, despite its inherent evil. What kind of God would do this? Only one kind. A God of love.

Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

So Great a Salvation

So, how practical is Christianity? The Bible presents an infinite Creator with the very attributes we would expect when we examine the things that are made. And God, as a personal Being, in order that He might have a love relationship with us, gave us the capacity of choice. In order that we might have a practical revelation of His love, His wisdom, His power, His glory, He became one of us in the person of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives. Consequently, we cannot look to God and declare that He is unfair. Far from being a devil, in this examination of the problem of evil, God becomes the hero of the plot and the solution to the problem of evil. And it all hinges on LOVE. Indeed, God is love.3 What must we do to receive this pardon?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

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This article was originally published in the
June 1999 Personal Update NewsJournal.


Notes:      

  1. Romans 1:18-20.
  2. Personal UPDATE, May 1999
  3. For those that would like an in-depth treatment of the problem of evil and a God of love, I highly recommend Alvin Plantinga's book, God, Freedom and Evil.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: choice; evil; freewill; good; love
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To: xzins
Let's look at Christ & Judas. Without Judas, would there have been a crucifixion & thence resurrection?
21 posted on 01/24/2004 8:35:26 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: AppyPappy
I agree that the evil nature of man is part of it.

The author of this agrees with that, too.

Good point.
22 posted on 01/24/2004 8:42:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: P.O.E.
The bible indicates that God foresaw Judas making his decision to be a traitor. Therefore, there was a point in time at which Judas had a choice.
23 posted on 01/24/2004 8:45:18 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins
The article's author is a bit mistaken, although he presents some interesting arguments.

God follows a policy of grace, while Satan follows a policy of evil. This says nothing to the etymology of the two terms, but helps place their meaning in perspective. Evil and sin are discernible terms. Not all sin is immediately discerned as evil, but is used by Satan to promote a cosmic evil. Sin was atoned on the cross, not evil. Evil is a problem that must be solved in time, whereas the cross has provided judgment for all sin for all time. Accordingly let's look at the conclusion of the article.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives.

The tone of the conclusion seems reasonable, but misses the target from the actual Scritural doctrines available to us. Let's take it line by line.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin),

There are still consequences of evil. The penalty of Sin or disobedience to His will, has been paid for, fully and completely, on the Cross by Jesus Christ, the Son.

(Some discernment between divine good and human good is appropriate as well as understanding Holiness is composed of Perfect Judgment and Perfect Righteousness as symbolized by the Arc of the Covenant in the Holiest of Holies.)

A freemason who builds a children's hospital and finances the operation in order a sick child may be healed by man without burden of financial cost is very good,....humanly good. If that charity is not provided FIRST, through faith in God, then that charity and 'love' is simply an appeal to arrogance.

An arrogant charity, is parlayed into evil by Satan using that charity to advance a counterfeit system to God's plan. God allows this evil to occur based upon His policy of grace.

Even though God omnisciently understands the shortcomings of human good, he still allows it, in part, because those who will come to a loving, perseverant, faithful relationship with Him in Holiness, approach initially from a sinful state. The allowance of evil, helps demonstrate to His faithful, the substance of how His plan is just and righteous even in the face of any counterfeit plan (frequently referred to as a cosmic plan or 'kosmos' in the Greek or worldly).

He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins.

Wrong object of love in Scripture. The focus of the Father with respect to the Son on the Cross was Judgment, Judgment, Judgment!

God is perfect Holiness. Wherever he is confronted with a lack of righteousness or unrighteousness, His Holiness demands Judgment.

Jesus Christ was the Incarnation of God,..(God in the flesh) . Jesus Christ possessed 2 natures, the divine and the human nature, in one person. He also provided the perfect example for all man to live as God created man.

Throughout His first coming, even unto and on the Cross, Jesus Christ displayed this magnificient example of how to live our life and problem solve per God's methods. We orient ourselves to His grace and we solve problems through faith in Him. Every problem ever encountered in life is only properly solved in this fashion. Even on the cross, even when a most degrading physical infliction was pressed upon Jesus Christ, he remained faithful and solved the problem by remaining faithful to the Father, even unto his death, or a state of separation of soul and spirit and body.

The significance is that the Father wasn't paying a penalty. The Son was remianing faithful and kept oriented to the grace of God in His thinking, simply as a human.

Even though Jesus Christ had legions of angels at His beck and call, He remained faithful to the Father who was judging ALL imputed sins of mankind on Jesus Christ at the Cross.

The fact that Jesus Christ was being crucified or physically killed is a bit mute, although His physical death and ressurrection allows the prototype for the bodily ressurection of believers. The more significant point for young believers is that Jesus Christ remained faithful, kept his soul (mind) focused on obedience to the Father through faith, even unto death. Nothing shall separate us from His love, including death. Without the sins being judged by the Father, a relationship between man and God still would not be possible, because His Holiness demands Perfect Judgment whereever a lack in righteousness exists, including even the least unwitting sin any person might commit.

The significance of the Father's role at the Cross was Judgment.

He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son).

IMHO, Wrong perspective. Some Calvinist doctrines would go further to declare the people choosing Barabas en lieu of Jesus Christ had nothing to do with His bodily death, because Jesus Christ was still in complete control of the situation.

The importance of Christ on the Cross, was not that man was murdering Him. Quite the opposite, the importance of Christ on the Cross was Judgment of all sin. All sin of man being imputed to Jesus Christ while He was on the Cross and being judged for all of those sins is the important aspect of the cross.

Our access to God is through Jesus Christ, the Son, not the Father directly.

But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs,

The cross was not an act of evil. The plan was an act of grace to impute all of the sins of mankind, past, present, and future onto the Son of God, Jesus Christ, and then their Judgment. The Judgment was perfect in Perfect Holiness, not an evil act. The significance of the conflict between those who intended murder and the grace of God is that the Grace of God prevails and doesn't submit to evil even in the harshest most extreme conditions of physicality, soulish attack or even spiritual denial, through faith in Him.

..."paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! .."

As long as one remains out of fellowship with God through faith in Him, we can still make good, but it is only human good, which is insufficient to relate to divine righteousness. The issue isn't as much 'wrong choices, as much as it is remaining in faith through Christ in all choices we make. The most humanly wrong choices made, if still performed through faith in Him are still counted for righteousness.

God didn't creat man as a sinner. Man through his volition became a sinner. The penalty of sin has been paid by Jesus Christ. Our only hope is to lay claim to that salvation through faith in Him.

In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives.

This last statement is emphatically wrong. Evil was not atoned by Christ on the Cross. Sin was the atonement. The consequences of evil are paid for over time.

24 posted on 01/24/2004 9:04:22 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Cvengr
A valuable read. You put a lot of work in the writing. Some of your points, I have to wonder if you and the author wouldn't agree if the 2 of you could sit down and compare words and meanings.

I think the points where you understand him referencing the wrong person of the Godhead would fit the above.

Your point about the "consequence" of sin is well taken. I agree with you after looking at his wording. (Although, he might say the same thing; that he wrote poorly what he was trying to say.) We DO suffer the "this-world" consequences of our sin. He should have worded it differently.

25 posted on 01/24/2004 9:23:31 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins
But without that choice there'd have been no story, and thus no lesson. To choose another example, the "dark night of the soul" is what you have to go through to get to the other side. A leap across the abyss, so to speak.
26 posted on 01/24/2004 9:35:13 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe
I see an extremely strong parallel between Judas and the pharaoh who Moses confronted to let God's people go.

Pharaoh saw God's power and hardened his heart; he saw God's power again and again hardened his heart; this went on and on. We're then told that God "fixed" his heart. In other words, the Pharaoh had shown his colors and God then simply firmed up the decision in an eternal "fixing" as firm as concrete.

Judas saw Jesus heal; and then he stole money. He saw Jesus feed 1000's and then he stole money. He saw this again and again, and he continued to steal. When the resurrection of Lazarus came around, and he traded Jesus soon afterward for 30 pieces of silver, he had fully qualified himself to be "selected" by God for the fulfillment that God intended for him.

27 posted on 01/24/2004 9:43:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins
Some hearts are melted by God's love, others like the Pharaohs and Judas hearts are hardened like wax.
28 posted on 01/24/2004 10:29:09 AM PST by massiveblob
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To: xzins; P.O.E.; Alamo-Girl
God knew his heart. When God hardened his heart, he did not make him do something he didn't want to do. He simply made him want to do that which he wanted to do all that much more. Hardening of the heart is hardening of the resolve. It is allowing and assisting you to have the courage of your convictions.

Would that the Lord would strengthen my resolve to do good and to seek his face.

BTW just out of curiosity, how can God harden a dead heart? Would he not have to bring it to life in order to harden it? If it were dead (as defined by some around here) it would be as hard as it could get. Perhaps "dead" doesn't exactly mean the absence of any life whatsoever, but merely (as I contend) separated -- soul from body or soul and spirit from God.

29 posted on 01/24/2004 10:33:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; P.O.E.; massiveblob
Perhaps "dead" doesn't mean absence of any life whatsoever

This is from an article posted yesterday: The sinful human mind is bent on argument with the Law, but the conscience will agree with it. It bears witness. This is such an important point. The sinner's understanding (the mind) is "darkened," but the conscience is a "light" that God has given to every man. The word "con-science" means "with knowledge." Some people seem to have no conscience but it is just seared (see 1 Tim 4:2) - hardened so that it has lost its ability to function. The correct use of the Law will resurrect it. When you speak directly to the conscience of a hardened sinner by saying "You know that it's wrong to steal, to lie, to commit adultery, etc.," the conscience affirms the truth of the Commandment. He will even unconsciously nod in affirmation.

Back to the illustration of the heart attack victim on the gurney whose heart has stopped. (Is he dead...yes; Is he dead....who knows) The jolt brings him back!

30 posted on 01/24/2004 10:48:07 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins
Please include me in those pings too. I'm interested in what you folks think about that.
31 posted on 01/24/2004 11:06:19 AM PST by The Grammarian
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To: xzins
Just to spur discussion...

Before the creation of man God created the host of heavens - angels. We don’t know much about this but we do know that one third of them fell. Calvinists would say these angels were meant to fall. The Armenians viewpoint would have to say these angels had the right to chose. Certainly a loving God who wanted worship from His creation would do the same for the angels.

If these angels had the “right to chose” than why did God find it necessary to create mankind? And when the angels fell didn’t He cast Satan and his crew into the Lake of Fire at that point? And what was the purpose of man? He already had beings that made a “choice” and would worship Him.
32 posted on 01/24/2004 11:15:09 AM PST by HarleyD (READ Your Bible-STUDY to show yourself approved)
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To: The Grammarian
Will do, Grammar.

You mean the "time" pings, correct?
33 posted on 01/24/2004 11:21:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins
You mean the "time" pings, correct?

Yep, the time pings. Thanks.

34 posted on 01/24/2004 11:26:26 AM PST by The Grammarian
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To: HarleyD; P-Marlowe; The Grammarian; Revelation 911; Corin Stormhands; Vernon; bzrd; opus86; ...
I know that all redemption and all judgement come together in Jesus.

Whatever else is said, Jesus is the best reason for creating humans.

Satan's fall implies that angels, too, have free will.

Why did God have to create another order of beings? I've often wondered in Revelation why Satan is imprisoned and then released one final time. Is it to beyond all doubt demonstrate his evil intent toward the good God has created? We know that we are in some way wrapped up in his judgement.

I'm just speculating here and open to other ideas/reconsideration of what I've said.
35 posted on 01/24/2004 11:27:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; The Grammarian
Thank you so very much for your kind reply and the very engaging link and thank you for including me in your future discussions of time!

If you read the link on my post number 12, you'll notice that I am a sponge for geometric physics, temporal and spatial dimensionality, relativity and the ilk. Therefore, if I get too far into the science side of time here on the religion forum please remind me.

36 posted on 01/24/2004 11:52:48 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins
I'm probably equally as guilty in some of my positions,
37 posted on 01/24/2004 12:23:11 PM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; The Grammarian
We will definitely ping you in the future. I'll check out your provided link.

38 posted on 01/24/2004 1:35:27 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Perhaps "dead" doesn't exactly mean the absence of any life whatsoever, but merely (as I contend) separated -- soul from body or soul and spirit from God.

There's some interpretation of the Final Judgement that this is the case (everlasting life, i.e., with God)

39 posted on 01/24/2004 1:57:37 PM PST by P.O.E. (Then sigh not so, But let them go, And be you blithe and bonny - Shakespeare)
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To: P.O.E.; xzins
My interpretation of hell is that man will get exactly what he wanted here on earth, i.e., life without God. Banished forever from the presence of God. No need for literal torture or torment. The torment and torture will be self inflicted by an eternity of regret. Weeping and gnashing of teeth.
40 posted on 01/24/2004 2:10:21 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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