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Why Does God Allow Evil? - Email from a Skeptic
Koinonea House Online ^ | Dr Mark Eastman

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:41:11 PM PST by xzins

In my experience, it is the most commonly asked question by honest skeptics: "If God is real, if God is personal, if God loves us, why does God allow evil?" A proper understanding of this issue not only provides great insight into the nature of God, it ties together a comprehensive understanding to some of life's ultimate questions: the answers to my origin, meaning, morality and destiny!

Email from A Skeptic

The question of evil was brought into clearer focus in an email I recently received from a skeptic:

The Christian worldview is an impractical, even phony, view of the Cosmos because it embraces a God who is either incapable of stopping evil and suffering, and he is therefore not omnipotent, or is unwilling to do so and therefore a devil!

The skeptic's point is well taken because the Bible states that one of God's attributes is love. "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." (I John 4:8) In the book of Romans, Paul the Apostle stated that the invisible attributes of God "are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead."1

However, what the skeptic is saying, in effect, is this: "If your God is love, I see no evidence of that attribute in creation. All the death, disease, pain and suffering seems to be out of place if this God of yours is love. Surely an all-powerful God could, and a loving God would, eliminate all evil. Since evil exists, then no such God exists."

To answer this objection we need to examine some principles of logic, the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of love and the nature of evil.

Evil and Moral Law

When someone states that they do not believe in God because a good God would not allow evil, they make a fatal error in logic. First, the recognition of evil is the recognition that certain actions are "right" and certain actions are "wrong." But how do we determine what actions are morally right and morally wrong? We discern this on the basis of a moral law: a universal sense that certain states of affairs are right and others are wrong. Even most atheists will admit that certain actions are universally wrong and, conversely, universally right.

For example, no one could seriously argue with the statement that it is better to love a child than to torture it. The point is that there is an innate, universal sense of right and wrong within all of us. What is the basis of this moral sense? Some would argue that it is based on cultural customs or traditions. But can this be so?

The famous atheist Bertrand Russell once debated a Christian who asked him if he believed in right and wrong. Russell replied "of course." Then he asked him how he determined what is right and wrong. Russell replied that he determined right and wrong on the basis of his feelings. His opponent replied, "Well, in some cultures they feel it is okay to eat you, and in others they don't. Which do you prefer." The point is that social customs, attitudes, traditions or feelings cannot determine a universal sense of right and wrong.

A universal sense of moral right and wrong can only come from a source outside of ourselves: a transcendent source, a moral Lawgiver. So the recognition of moral law is by default the recognition of a moral Lawgiver. To argue that the existence of evil proves that there is no God is equivalent to stating that the existence of moral law proves that there is no Lawgiver! It's like declaring that the Chrysler automobile that I drive proves without a doubt that there is no Chrysler Motor Company!

Atheists often present the problem of evil to theists as if it is a fatal argument for the existence of God. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, it is an absolutely unsolvable problem for the atheist. How does the atheist explain evil-the sense of moral right and wrong-in the absence of a moral Lawgiver? They can't! If there is no moral Lawgiver, then there is no way to explain the sense of moral wrong and moral right we all possess. C.S. Lewis said that evil is God's megaphone to a non-believing world. Evil speaks of moral law. Moral law demands a moral Lawgiver, and it is He that we call God!

Evil Often Begets Good

A second principle of logic we need to consider is the fact that an apparently evil state of affairs will often bring about an even better state of affairs. The problem is that we often do not recognize this fact until we have the advantage of hindsight. In my own field of medicine I see this on a daily basis: the process of childbirth, surgical intervention, and many medical therapies often present physical pain (an evil state of affairs according to non-theists), and yet they bring about an even better state of affairs: improved health. Physical pain is often highly beneficial as well. When a child touches a hot stove, the nervous system sends a neurological signal to the brain which is perceived as pain (a form of evil). Yet without that sense of pain, an even worse state of affairs would arise: the destruction of the limb.

The skeptic might object that while this provides a partial answer to the problem of evil, it does not address some of the most disturbing forms of evil: war, murder, rape, incest and the senseless death of the innocent.

God, Freedom, and Evil

The problem of human evil is rooted in the nature of God and the nature of love and the nature of mankind. I argued in last month's Personal UPDATE that God is a personal being because an impersonal force is an insufficient agent to create personal beings.2 What is the greatest passion of personal beings? I would argue that, above all else, personal beings desire personal relationships with other personal beings. So it makes sense that God, as a personal being, would desire to create us in such a way that He could have a meaningful, personal, and loving relationship with us. But this has a severe price.

Let us consider the nature of love and its consequences. I cannot experience love from you unless you have the capacity to do otherwise. If you have the capacity to not love me, and you choose instead to love me, then that choice has validity. It has meaning. You cannot have a love relationship with a computer. It is pre-programmed to serve you. Love requires choice: unencumbered choice. And that's where the problem lies.

When God created mankind, He too had a choice. If He created us as beings that were pre-programmed to follow and serve Him, there could be no love. But, if He created us with the capacity of choice, the capacity to love and serve Him, and the capacity not to do so, then there is the possibility of relationship: the possibility of real love. As a personal being with the capability of creating us in the first place, it makes sense that He would want to create us as personal beings with the capability of choice (free will) and, thus, the capability of love. But where there is choice and the capability of love, there is also the capability to choose wrong and to do great evil.

But the skeptic says, "why did God do this when he knew in advance that the result of free will would be so disastrous? Did this God of love not care that war, murder, rape and so much senseless violence would be the result of his choice to give us free will?" A real life illustration will help us to understand.

The Love of a Mother

During my 15 years as a physician I have seen an enormous amount of physical suffering. During that time I have had five children in my practice die by disease and injury. All of these children came from Christian families. Several months after the death of one of these children, the child's mother was in my office and was very distraught over her loss. She asked me, "Why did God allow this? I love God. Why did this happen?"

What could I say in this situation? Rather than providing an answer I asked her this question. "You have three children. One of them has died. If you could go back to the time before you had any children, with the knowledge that one of them would die this horrible death, would you have children again?"

After a long pause, with many tears in her eyes and a broken heart she said, "Oh yes. Oh yes. yes I would. Because, you see, the love and the joy and the happiness I have received from my children far outweighs the pain, suffering and misery I experienced from the loss of that one child. Oh yes. Oh yes. I would have children again."

In this tragic story we see an incredible insight as to why God allows evil to exist. As discussed earlier, a loving God can allow an evil state of affairs to exist if, in allowing it to occur, it brings about an even better state of affairs. For this woman, the loss of her child was an unequalled and tragic evil. But, with the advantage of hindsight, she said she would do it all again because the love she received as a result of being a mother outweighed the evil state of affairs in the death of her child.

In the hypothetical scenario I presented to this woman, with the advantage of hindsight (foreknowledge in this case) she was in a position comparable to God's before He created humankind. Because He is outside time and knows all things, He knew that there would be tremendous pain and suffering as a result of His decision to create a people with the capacity of choice and, consequently, the capacity to sin (moral evil).

But God, like this mother, knew that the love He and his human creatures would experience would outweigh the pain and suffering that would result from His decision to create us as He did. But the consequences of God's decision were not unforeseen. They were foreknown!

The Incredible Answer

The skeptic that emailed me stated, in effect, that if an all-powerful God did not eliminate evil, then He was a devil! The implication is that the removal of all evil would permit a better, more loving world. A truly loving God, the skeptics assert, would have desired and created such a world because it is clearly superior to the one we have. Any God that did not follow this logic was not a God of love, but an evil tyrant.

As we have seen, this logic crumbles under its own weight. The existence of evil is the "side effect" of creating a world with love. But as we have seen, there are compelling arguments that a world possessing both evil and love is superior to a world where neither is possible. For God to eliminate evil, He would have to eliminate our capacity of choice and thus our capacity to do both evil and good. And such a world is inferior to the one we have: one where love is possible, despite its inherent evil. What kind of God would do this? Only one kind. A God of love.

Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

So Great a Salvation

So, how practical is Christianity? The Bible presents an infinite Creator with the very attributes we would expect when we examine the things that are made. And God, as a personal Being, in order that He might have a love relationship with us, gave us the capacity of choice. In order that we might have a practical revelation of His love, His wisdom, His power, His glory, He became one of us in the person of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives. Consequently, we cannot look to God and declare that He is unfair. Far from being a devil, in this examination of the problem of evil, God becomes the hero of the plot and the solution to the problem of evil. And it all hinges on LOVE. Indeed, God is love.3 What must we do to receive this pardon?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

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This article was originally published in the
June 1999 Personal Update NewsJournal.


Notes:      

  1. Romans 1:18-20.
  2. Personal UPDATE, May 1999
  3. For those that would like an in-depth treatment of the problem of evil and a God of love, I highly recommend Alvin Plantinga's book, God, Freedom and Evil.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: choice; evil; freewill; good; love
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To: betty boop; man of Yosemite
What a beautiful thought, man of Yosemite! Thank you so much for the ping, betty boop!
181 posted on 01/30/2004 9:58:24 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Dataman; bondserv
Self-lobotomy is not required as an act of faith

Quite a pungent response and I stand in your shadow. Surely you are the people here on FR and your wisdom will die with you!:)

What is wisdom and what is understanding?

182 posted on 01/30/2004 1:12:34 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet (That's okay. The scariest movie that I ever saw was The Silence of the Lambs)
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To: xzins
Frist of all man was created perfect.2. Evil enter the world thru Adam and Eve act of disobedents.3.Adam and Eve died a spritally death on the spot, and died physical death later.4. Jesus died for are sins that we may be born-again of spirt and water. Are only free will choose in this life that matters.5. The laws of thermdynamic do not apply to the new heaven and earth. Or for that fact any other universal laws. Why you ask? Because we cannot imagine a perfect life, any more than the angel can imagine our sinful life. And because Satan took a third of all the angel with him to hell with out any hope of redeption, along with other spiritual creatures. Therefore God has choosen man to see and live in this sinful life that we may know and understand,give us a perspective that other spiritual creatures don't have and has given us the choice to live with him forever, or died with out him forever. We therefore are different and stand as a living testament to Gods love forever. Your thinking is so limited to the here and now with out any eternal perspective are out come.
183 posted on 01/30/2004 1:47:37 PM PST by Warlord David
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To: xzins
Frist of all man was created perfect.2. Evil enter the world thru Adam and Eve act of disobedents.3.Adam and Eve died a spritally death on the spot, and died physical death later.4. Jesus died for are sins that we may be born-again of spirt and water. Are only free will choose in this life that matters.5. The laws of thermdynamic do not apply to the new heaven and earth. Or for that fact any other universal laws. Why you ask? Because we cannot imagine a perfect life, any more than the angel can imagine our sinful life. And because Satan took a third of all the angel with him to hell with out any hope of redeption, along with other spiritual creatures. Therefore God has choosen man to see and live in this sinful life that we may know and understand,give us a perspective that other spiritual creatures don't have and has given us the choice to live with him forever, or died with out him forever. We therefore are different and stand as a living testament to Gods love forever. Your thinking is so limited to the here and now with out any eternal perspective are out come.
184 posted on 01/30/2004 1:47:45 PM PST by Warlord David
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To: Markofhumanfeet; betty boop; bondserv; Dataman
Thank you for your reply and your question!

What is wisdom and what is understanding?

My two cents…

Wisdom and understanding given by God to those who love Him are not the temporal “wisdom of the wise” and “the understanding of the prudent” of mortal man:

For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth [cometh] knowledge and understanding. – Proverbs 2:6

[There is] no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD. – Proverbs 21:6

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, [even] a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise [men] shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent [men] shall be hid. – Isaiah 29:13-14

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. – I Corinthians 1:18-19.


185 posted on 01/30/2004 1:56:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dataman; bondserv
, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. – I Corinthians 1:18-19.

Verses 20 following, especially 22,

For the Jews seek after a sign and the Greeks seek after wisdom

Some Greeks found it, but it wasn't the kind found of the Greeks

186 posted on 01/30/2004 2:15:39 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet (That's okay. The scariest movie that I ever saw was The Silence of the Lambs)
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To: Markofhumanfeet
Eccl 1:14-18
14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and indeed, all is vanity and grasping for the wind.
15 What is crooked cannot be made straight,
And what is lacking cannot be numbered.
16 I communed with my heart, saying, “Look, I have attained greatness, and have gained more wisdom than all who were before me in Jerusalem. My heart has understood great wisdom and knowledge.”
17 And I set my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also is grasping for the wind.
18 For in much wisdom is much grief,
And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

187 posted on 01/30/2004 4:07:51 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: Markofhumanfeet; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dataman
1 Cor 13:12-13
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Still looking for knowledge on that list! Knowledge is entertaining, but scripture doesn't invest any stock in it.

Alignment is critical.
188 posted on 01/30/2004 4:28:21 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: Markofhumanfeet; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dataman
1 Cor 13:12-13
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Still looking for knowledge on that list! Knowledge is entertaining, but scripture doesn't invest any stock in it. It's who you know that matters, not what you know!

Alignment is critical.
189 posted on 01/30/2004 4:28:53 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: Markofhumanfeet; Alamo-Girl; marron; Phaedrus; unspun; cornelis
Selected quotes via bb:

“If the Bible is true, then what is called for above all is obedience to the biblical God as simply authoritative. Philosophy as such – so long as it remains true to itself – cannot wholly surrender to such obedience, but philosophy can strive to understand what it might mean to do so . . . . The danger for us today is that we remain at too great a skeptical distance ever to enter into such a dialogue . . . and therefore we risk wallowing in longing for God instead of grappling with God – as Jesus and Socrates, each in his radically different way, teach us to do.”

-- Thomas L. Pangle, in Political Philosophy and the God of Abraham (Johns Hopkins Press, 2004).

Christianity is not concerned with belief in a literary text, but with man’s confrontation with God through faith.”

– Eric Voegelin, “The German University and German Society,” in The Collected Works of Eric Voegelin: Published Essays, 1966-1985, Vol. 12 (LSU Press, 1990).

J, you asked: "What is wisdom and what is understanding?"

Think on what these men are saying. Then, you have the stage: I'd like to hear from you.

190 posted on 01/30/2004 7:53:32 PM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: bondserv; Alamo-Girl; Phaedrus; marron; unspun; lockeliberty; cornelis
...but the greatest of these is love.

Still looking for knowledge on that list! ....

That may be because you do not understand the pursuit of knowledge, and finally of wisdom, as a human act of responsive love of God.

After all, our Father, Sustainer, and Judge, not only invested His human children with reason and free will; but He also gave us the natural world -- His Creation -- to study. He reveals Himself in all His works, scriptural and natural. Or so it seems to me, His creature. FWIW.

He loves those (I imagine) who humbly seek to follow His works -- who seek Him in His works, spiritual and natural.

191 posted on 01/30/2004 8:06:51 PM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: betty boop; bondserv; Markofhumanfeet
Thank you all for your posts and for the Scriptures!

betty boop: He reveals Himself in all His works, scriptural and natural. Or so it seems to me, His creature.

As always, I find myself in agreement with you, betty boop. As the psalmist said in 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. – Psalms 19:1

Jesus instructs us to know the Scriptures and to think. In presenting some of the parables, He challenges the listeners to think. Moreover, in His response to the Sadducees’ attempt to trip Him up, He makes it clear that a) God speaks through the Scriptures, b) the Scriptures are accurate to the very tense of the word and c) we must think (emphasis mine):

But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. – Matthew 22:31-32

In various passages, we are instructed to learn, analyze and be prepared --- but always with particular emphasis on humility and loving God above all else:

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: - 1 Peter 3:15

Of these things put [them] in remembrance, charging [them] before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, [but] to the subverting of the hearers. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. – 2 Timothy 2:14-16

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? – 2 Corinthians 13:5

And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure. – Philippians 2:11-13

And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. But if any man love God, the same is known of him. – 1 Corinthians 8:2-3

The Word is more than the Scriptures:

And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. - John 5:38-42

And as a final point, we are warned never to fabricate in our minds a “god” of our choosing.

For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, [and] hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. - Jeremiah 2:13

And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring: - Numbers 15:39

Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek [it] out, yet he shall not find [it]; yea further; though a wise [man] think to know [it], yet shall he not be able to find [it]. – Ecclesiastes 8:17

This was the error of the Greeks in Athens, who had fabricated "gods" by their own, mortal wisdom.

Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, [Ye] men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead.

And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this [matter]. So Paul departed from among them. - Acts 17:22-33


192 posted on 01/30/2004 9:55:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Matt 22:37
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

I believe the things that we think need to be filtered by the shed blood of Christ. It is He that provides "right" thinking.

Pro 3:5-7
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
193 posted on 01/30/2004 10:27:25 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv; betty boop
Exactly! Every mortal hope depends on obedience to the Great Commandments:

Love God absolutely and our fellow man, unconditionally (paraphrased).

The Law and the prophets hang from it (Matt 22:40).
There is no wisdom or understanding without it.
Therein is the meaning and purpose of our existence.

Thank you so much for your reply!

194 posted on 01/30/2004 10:39:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
God is not upset by our questions concerning him. Jesus often put forth a question to his hearers to make them think. The Christ as a youth was found among the doctors of the law asking them questions.

The approach to God must be from a point of humility, for God will not reveal himself to the proud. This is often why brilliant people go round and round and never perceive God, their efforts being a showcase of their own magnificence, so perceived, while God's magnificence eludes them at every turn. Surely he gives his grace to the humble, for when we see the poverty of our own plight, then we can reach up for the hand that has been ever stretched toward us. Pilate asked the question "what is truth?" while the answer was directly before him. He thought he had seen it all, and that failure of childlike faith stood between him and the knowledge of the Son of God. Ultimately, he acted out of some superstition, fearing a dream his wife had.
195 posted on 01/31/2004 12:00:17 AM PST by man of Yosemite ("When a man decides to do something everyday, that's about when he stops doing it.")
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To: bondserv; BibChr
Knowledge is entertaining, but scripture doesn't invest any stock in it.

I know what you mean by knowledge (gnostic knowledge, the knowledge that "puffs up," etc.) but just in case someone might think Christianity is against knowledge...

IOW, our heads were given to be used, and I know you do not disagree with that.
196 posted on 01/31/2004 12:26:57 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Markofhumanfeet
"What is wisdom and what is understanding?"

When we do it, it's wisdom,....when you do it, it's understanding... (hehehehe)(/tongue in cheek)

197 posted on 01/31/2004 1:30:40 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Markofhumanfeet; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
What is wisdom and what is understanding?
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Farewell natural theology?

198 posted on 01/31/2004 1:48:50 AM PST by lockeliberty
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To: Dataman
Good verses,...might also emphasize the discernment between gnosis and epignosis.

An off the cuff description I understand of the meaning in Scripture associates our receiving inward knowledge (gnosis), metabolizing it through faith in Him, and it becoming an outward, teachable, working, evidentiary knowledge (epignosis).

The more we mature in this epistemilogical process, renewing ourselves through faith in Him, we also mature in sanctification over time, again through Him.

Interesting aspect is to study the Greek word 'PISTIS' as faith. In some passages it references a trust, confidence, believing reliance, psychological intuition. In others it is better referenced as doctrine.

An interesting study is how the inital faith which is made efficacious for salvation by the Holy Spirit, and in and of itself is used for positional sanctification, therefore allowing a state of circumstances to arise where we are then able to receive the grace of God and which allows God to bestow His grace without being unjust, ....that initial faith then steadily migrates in continued faithful fellowship into metabolized doctrine evidenced in works.
199 posted on 01/31/2004 1:51:12 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: lockeliberty
It takes another form of wisdom and understanding to score on this exam:

SELF-REFERENTIAL APTITUDE TEST, by Jim Propp (propp@math.wisc.edu)

The solution to the following puzzle is unique; in some cases the knowledge that the solution is unique may actually give you a short-cut to finding the answer to a particular question, but it's possible to
find the unique solution even without making use of the fact that the solution is unique. (Thanks to Andy Latto for bringing this subtlety to my attention.)

I should mention that if you don't agree with me about the answer to #20, you will get a different solution to the puzzle than the one I had in mind. But I should also mention that if you don't agree with me about the answer
to #20, you are just plain wrong. :-)

You may now begin work.
(Hint: the solutions are also the theme of the film, 'Fatal Attraction')

1. The first question whose answer is B is question
(A) 1
(B) 2
(C) 3
(D) 4
(E) 5

2. The only two consecutive questions with identical answers are questions
(A) 6 and 7
(B) 7 and 8
(C) 8 and 9
(D) 9 and 10
(E) 10 and 11

3. The number of questions with the answer E is
(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

4. The number of questions with the answer A is
(A) 4
(B) 5
(C) 6
(D) 7
(E) 8

5. The answer to this question is the same as the answer to question
(A) 1
(B) 2
(C) 3
(D) 4
(E) 5

6. The answer to question 17 is
(A) C
(B) D
(C) E
(D) none of the above
(E) all of the above

7. Alphabetically, the answer to this question and the answer to the
following question are
(A) 4 apart
(B) 3 apart
(C) 2 apart
(D) 1 apart
(E) the same

8. The number of questions whose answers are vowels is
(A) 4
(B) 5
(C) 6
(D) 7
(E) 8

9. The next question with the same answer as this one is question
(A) 10
(B) 11
(C) 12
(D) 13
(E) 14

10. The answer to question 16 is
(A) D
(B) A
(C) E
(D) B
(E) C

11. The number of questions preceding this one with the answer B is
(A) 0
(B) 1
(C) 2
(D) 3
(E) 4

12. The number of questions whose answer is a consonant is
(A) an even number
(B) an odd number
(C) a perfect square
(D) a prime
(E) divisible by 5

13. The only odd-numbered problem with answer A is
(A) 9
(B) 11
(C) 13
(D) 15
(E) 17

14. The number of questions with answer D is
(A) 6
(B) 7
(C) 8
(D) 9
(E) 10

15. The answer to question 12 is
(A) A
(B) B
(C) C
(D) D
(E) E

16. The answer to question 10 is
(A) D
(B) C
(C) B
(D) A
(E) E

17. The answer to question 6 is
(A) C
(B) D
(C) E
(D) none of the above
(E) all of the above

18. The number of questions with answer A equals the number of questions
with answer
(A) B
(B) C
(C) D
(D) E
(E) none of the above

19. The answer to this question is:
(A) A
(B) B
(C) C
(D) D
(E) E

20. Standardized test is to intelligence as barometer is to
(A) temperature (only)
(B) wind-velocity (only)
(C) latitude (only)
(D) longitude (only)
(E) temperature, wind-velocity, latitude, and longitude

200 posted on 01/31/2004 2:04:39 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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