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Why Does God Allow Evil? - Email from a Skeptic
Koinonea House Online ^ | Dr Mark Eastman

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:41:11 PM PST by xzins

In my experience, it is the most commonly asked question by honest skeptics: "If God is real, if God is personal, if God loves us, why does God allow evil?" A proper understanding of this issue not only provides great insight into the nature of God, it ties together a comprehensive understanding to some of life's ultimate questions: the answers to my origin, meaning, morality and destiny!

Email from A Skeptic

The question of evil was brought into clearer focus in an email I recently received from a skeptic:

The Christian worldview is an impractical, even phony, view of the Cosmos because it embraces a God who is either incapable of stopping evil and suffering, and he is therefore not omnipotent, or is unwilling to do so and therefore a devil!

The skeptic's point is well taken because the Bible states that one of God's attributes is love. "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." (I John 4:8) In the book of Romans, Paul the Apostle stated that the invisible attributes of God "are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead."1

However, what the skeptic is saying, in effect, is this: "If your God is love, I see no evidence of that attribute in creation. All the death, disease, pain and suffering seems to be out of place if this God of yours is love. Surely an all-powerful God could, and a loving God would, eliminate all evil. Since evil exists, then no such God exists."

To answer this objection we need to examine some principles of logic, the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of love and the nature of evil.

Evil and Moral Law

When someone states that they do not believe in God because a good God would not allow evil, they make a fatal error in logic. First, the recognition of evil is the recognition that certain actions are "right" and certain actions are "wrong." But how do we determine what actions are morally right and morally wrong? We discern this on the basis of a moral law: a universal sense that certain states of affairs are right and others are wrong. Even most atheists will admit that certain actions are universally wrong and, conversely, universally right.

For example, no one could seriously argue with the statement that it is better to love a child than to torture it. The point is that there is an innate, universal sense of right and wrong within all of us. What is the basis of this moral sense? Some would argue that it is based on cultural customs or traditions. But can this be so?

The famous atheist Bertrand Russell once debated a Christian who asked him if he believed in right and wrong. Russell replied "of course." Then he asked him how he determined what is right and wrong. Russell replied that he determined right and wrong on the basis of his feelings. His opponent replied, "Well, in some cultures they feel it is okay to eat you, and in others they don't. Which do you prefer." The point is that social customs, attitudes, traditions or feelings cannot determine a universal sense of right and wrong.

A universal sense of moral right and wrong can only come from a source outside of ourselves: a transcendent source, a moral Lawgiver. So the recognition of moral law is by default the recognition of a moral Lawgiver. To argue that the existence of evil proves that there is no God is equivalent to stating that the existence of moral law proves that there is no Lawgiver! It's like declaring that the Chrysler automobile that I drive proves without a doubt that there is no Chrysler Motor Company!

Atheists often present the problem of evil to theists as if it is a fatal argument for the existence of God. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, it is an absolutely unsolvable problem for the atheist. How does the atheist explain evil-the sense of moral right and wrong-in the absence of a moral Lawgiver? They can't! If there is no moral Lawgiver, then there is no way to explain the sense of moral wrong and moral right we all possess. C.S. Lewis said that evil is God's megaphone to a non-believing world. Evil speaks of moral law. Moral law demands a moral Lawgiver, and it is He that we call God!

Evil Often Begets Good

A second principle of logic we need to consider is the fact that an apparently evil state of affairs will often bring about an even better state of affairs. The problem is that we often do not recognize this fact until we have the advantage of hindsight. In my own field of medicine I see this on a daily basis: the process of childbirth, surgical intervention, and many medical therapies often present physical pain (an evil state of affairs according to non-theists), and yet they bring about an even better state of affairs: improved health. Physical pain is often highly beneficial as well. When a child touches a hot stove, the nervous system sends a neurological signal to the brain which is perceived as pain (a form of evil). Yet without that sense of pain, an even worse state of affairs would arise: the destruction of the limb.

The skeptic might object that while this provides a partial answer to the problem of evil, it does not address some of the most disturbing forms of evil: war, murder, rape, incest and the senseless death of the innocent.

God, Freedom, and Evil

The problem of human evil is rooted in the nature of God and the nature of love and the nature of mankind. I argued in last month's Personal UPDATE that God is a personal being because an impersonal force is an insufficient agent to create personal beings.2 What is the greatest passion of personal beings? I would argue that, above all else, personal beings desire personal relationships with other personal beings. So it makes sense that God, as a personal being, would desire to create us in such a way that He could have a meaningful, personal, and loving relationship with us. But this has a severe price.

Let us consider the nature of love and its consequences. I cannot experience love from you unless you have the capacity to do otherwise. If you have the capacity to not love me, and you choose instead to love me, then that choice has validity. It has meaning. You cannot have a love relationship with a computer. It is pre-programmed to serve you. Love requires choice: unencumbered choice. And that's where the problem lies.

When God created mankind, He too had a choice. If He created us as beings that were pre-programmed to follow and serve Him, there could be no love. But, if He created us with the capacity of choice, the capacity to love and serve Him, and the capacity not to do so, then there is the possibility of relationship: the possibility of real love. As a personal being with the capability of creating us in the first place, it makes sense that He would want to create us as personal beings with the capability of choice (free will) and, thus, the capability of love. But where there is choice and the capability of love, there is also the capability to choose wrong and to do great evil.

But the skeptic says, "why did God do this when he knew in advance that the result of free will would be so disastrous? Did this God of love not care that war, murder, rape and so much senseless violence would be the result of his choice to give us free will?" A real life illustration will help us to understand.

The Love of a Mother

During my 15 years as a physician I have seen an enormous amount of physical suffering. During that time I have had five children in my practice die by disease and injury. All of these children came from Christian families. Several months after the death of one of these children, the child's mother was in my office and was very distraught over her loss. She asked me, "Why did God allow this? I love God. Why did this happen?"

What could I say in this situation? Rather than providing an answer I asked her this question. "You have three children. One of them has died. If you could go back to the time before you had any children, with the knowledge that one of them would die this horrible death, would you have children again?"

After a long pause, with many tears in her eyes and a broken heart she said, "Oh yes. Oh yes. yes I would. Because, you see, the love and the joy and the happiness I have received from my children far outweighs the pain, suffering and misery I experienced from the loss of that one child. Oh yes. Oh yes. I would have children again."

In this tragic story we see an incredible insight as to why God allows evil to exist. As discussed earlier, a loving God can allow an evil state of affairs to exist if, in allowing it to occur, it brings about an even better state of affairs. For this woman, the loss of her child was an unequalled and tragic evil. But, with the advantage of hindsight, she said she would do it all again because the love she received as a result of being a mother outweighed the evil state of affairs in the death of her child.

In the hypothetical scenario I presented to this woman, with the advantage of hindsight (foreknowledge in this case) she was in a position comparable to God's before He created humankind. Because He is outside time and knows all things, He knew that there would be tremendous pain and suffering as a result of His decision to create a people with the capacity of choice and, consequently, the capacity to sin (moral evil).

But God, like this mother, knew that the love He and his human creatures would experience would outweigh the pain and suffering that would result from His decision to create us as He did. But the consequences of God's decision were not unforeseen. They were foreknown!

The Incredible Answer

The skeptic that emailed me stated, in effect, that if an all-powerful God did not eliminate evil, then He was a devil! The implication is that the removal of all evil would permit a better, more loving world. A truly loving God, the skeptics assert, would have desired and created such a world because it is clearly superior to the one we have. Any God that did not follow this logic was not a God of love, but an evil tyrant.

As we have seen, this logic crumbles under its own weight. The existence of evil is the "side effect" of creating a world with love. But as we have seen, there are compelling arguments that a world possessing both evil and love is superior to a world where neither is possible. For God to eliminate evil, He would have to eliminate our capacity of choice and thus our capacity to do both evil and good. And such a world is inferior to the one we have: one where love is possible, despite its inherent evil. What kind of God would do this? Only one kind. A God of love.

Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

So Great a Salvation

So, how practical is Christianity? The Bible presents an infinite Creator with the very attributes we would expect when we examine the things that are made. And God, as a personal Being, in order that He might have a love relationship with us, gave us the capacity of choice. In order that we might have a practical revelation of His love, His wisdom, His power, His glory, He became one of us in the person of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives. Consequently, we cannot look to God and declare that He is unfair. Far from being a devil, in this examination of the problem of evil, God becomes the hero of the plot and the solution to the problem of evil. And it all hinges on LOVE. Indeed, God is love.3 What must we do to receive this pardon?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

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This article was originally published in the
June 1999 Personal Update NewsJournal.


Notes:      

  1. Romans 1:18-20.
  2. Personal UPDATE, May 1999
  3. For those that would like an in-depth treatment of the problem of evil and a God of love, I highly recommend Alvin Plantinga's book, God, Freedom and Evil.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: choice; evil; freewill; good; love
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To: connectthedots
I think that prayer can lead to God changing his mind concerning men, but no prayer is going to change the fact that all of God;s prophesies will come to pass and his ultimate plan for mankind will be fulfilled.

That's very interesting because that's basically how Boyd (and other Open Theists) come down. I'm certain I could not summarize his arguments as well as he has, but he basically argues that, in granting free will to His creatures (both heavenly and human), God constrained Himself as to the degree to which He will 'interfere' with the flow of His creation. In essence, the argument goes, if God was to allow free will, i.e. the free choice to love Him or not, accept His Son or not, then it had to have free consequences and that, necessarily, allows Satan more room to work evil than God's original plan would have allowed.

I see the view as well explaining evil by God's giving full play to the free will He clearly covets. It happens that within the last year, my dear wife of 39 years contracted cancer and died very quickly. Now the cancer was (and is) pure evil. My wife was a Christian woman who never drank or smoked in her life. She never engaged in what the world euphemistically calls 'high risk behavior" and she was a truly wonderful Christian woman. Yet she suffered the strictures of evil unbounded.

I simply cannot find in the Bible the idea that somehow her suffering and death was 'good'; that is simply solving the problem of evil by renaming it.

It was, and is, however a source of great comfort to me to understand that God desires only good for His children but knows that the evil put in motion by those of His creatures who have freely chosen it will cause harm to His true children. I know that when God gathered her home, He was as burdened by the harm caused by the Evil One as I was.

He does not promise us a 'get out of the way of evil' card -- He could do that if He had not valued our volitional love , but He does not. He is literally at war for us -- at war with His own creation and the evil it has wrought.

I found (and find) this biblical view a consoling one.

101 posted on 01/26/2004 4:28:22 PM PST by winstonchurchill
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To: winstonchurchill
It's good to have you back, my friend. There's the possibility of a new day breaking out at FR wherein people don't have to constantly ward off attacks for trying to discuss ideas.

I'll get Boyd's book.

102 posted on 01/26/2004 6:20:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: winstonchurchill; xzins
Yes, it's good to have you back, winston. You've been missed.
103 posted on 01/26/2004 8:09:51 PM PST by The Grammarian
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To: winstonchurchill
I think God's plan is far more dynamic in that while nothing will be able to thwart the ultimate will of God, God is so powerful and 'creative' that he can use even man-created situations to his glory and ultimate will. If a man can adjust to changing circumstances, certainly God can as well.
104 posted on 01/26/2004 8:31:30 PM PST by connectthedots (John Calvin WAS NOT a Calvinist.)
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To: lockeliberty; Alamo-Girl; marron; PatrickHenry; cornelis; xzins; Tribune7; RightWhale; ...
With all due respect, this is still incomplete. What has been left undealt with is the OT theophanies and the Spirit coming upon the prophets.

Truly it is said that the Spirit moveth as it wilt. Human beings formulating accounts of the divine creation need always to bear this in mind.

It seems quite clear that the Lord moved in human souls long before the Incarnation entered space-time reality and human history. Clearly the patriarchs and the prophets received direct epiphanies from God. And this sort of thing goes 'way back in human history, to ancient times. Take, for instance, the example of Abraham, on whom God "fathered a nation" and incidentally created the "rock" on which Western civilization has been built.

It could be argued that we can go back much farther than the second or third millennia to find further evidences of human inspiration of the divine: We could say the symbols of the cave paintings of Lascaux in the French Pyrannees, said to date back some 40 millennia, attest to this also. Perhaps something of this nature was granted to Plato, five centuries before Christ.

The details of how this all plays out, this affecting of the material by the spiritual such that a Universe, a Cosmos can result, are way beyond my ken.

What I do know is that God is a God of love and mercy, and that Life is wholly in His gift -- and only in His gift.

Thanks so much for writing, lockeliberty!

105 posted on 01/26/2004 8:39:48 PM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: winstonchurchill
It's good to see you winston. You have my heartfelt sympathy for your loss.
106 posted on 01/26/2004 9:25:22 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (www.wardsmythe.com)
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To: winstonchurchill
I am very sorry to hear of your loss and at the same time blessed to hear your testimony of faith and love! Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
107 posted on 01/26/2004 9:39:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
What I do know is that God is a God of love and mercy, and that Life is wholly in His gift -- and only in His gift.

So true, betty boop. So very true.

108 posted on 01/26/2004 9:48:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: marron; Alamo-Girl; Phaedrus; cornelis; unspun; logos; PatrickHenry; RightWhale; Tribune7; xzins; ..
But proving that we operate according to design does not eliminate free will, because that is also a part of the design. Its part of the distributed intelligence built into the design. Each part of the system must have the capability of judging the unique situation it finds itself in and acting on its own initiative. To say that free will is part of the design doesn't eliminate free will, obviously.

marron, speaking of this “distributed intelligence” business, it would seem that intelligence, or information, must be necessary for living beings to exist. For the existence of Life seems not to be the least bit understandable under the conservation laws of the physical sciences, collectively summed up as “the least action principle.” Classical thermodynamics predicts that all systems will seek to arrive at a state of perfect equilibrium by the shortest (spatiotemporal) route possible. But this state is precisely the very antithesis of life: Which is probably why it is also called “heat death.”

So it seems that living beings must possess resources to counter the “deterministic” proclivities of entropy, so as to preserve and maintain their “aliveness” on a constant, on-going basis.

What seems needed for that purpose is: (1) the ability to take reliable readings of the current state of the system, which is undergoing constant, dynamic modification in its relations with its internal and external environments; (2) the ability to recognize “threats” to well-being and/or “survival prospects”; (3) a set of strategies effective to counter the “natural pull” of heat death in ways critical to the preservation and maintenance of the organism’s life – at the quantum, atomic, molecular, cellular, organic, systemic, and even personal and social levels. The living being, in other words, requires an enormous amount of information to maintain itself, as well as the ready ability to effectively process this information. It seems the living being must also be able to discriminate between information that helps it, and what doesn’t. Choice, discrimination, are everywhere in this scenario; free will is absolutely essential, indispensable for the life process “to work.”

Thus I imagine the living Universe is fundamentally constituted by three key principles: the “least action principle” of the physical sciences; the “life principle,” particularly as advanced by Ervin Bauer; and a noetic principle – governing intelligence, information, etc.

The above reverie might seem silly, marron; I have just been having a “field day” lately, synthesizing/reconciling ancient symbols and myths with modern science. I hope I didn’t get too carried away…. :^)

Anyhoot, thank you for indulging me – and for having written such a fine article in the first place.

109 posted on 01/26/2004 10:05:46 PM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: betty boop
Oh, what an excellent essay, betty boop! I agree with you on every point.

Scientists such as H.H. Pattee, Hubert Yockey and Luis Rocha clearly understand that there can be no biological life without information, i.e. DNA. What is even more startling - as you have observed - is that there can be no physical existence, no physical realm, without information either!

110 posted on 01/26/2004 10:34:02 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: P-Marlowe
Of course, there are those who think that if Calvin didn't think it, then its not worthy of thought.

This could be considered baiting.....

111 posted on 01/26/2004 10:49:37 PM PST by ksen (HHD - Dilandau is..........my sister!)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
Well, thank yous for joining us here in the ghetto.

I take it that when you say, epiphanies, you're not speaking of a direct presence of God into space-time, as in the Incarnation, but rather an involvement of the Spirit with our spirit or soul. So, for instance, when God passed in front of Moses it was not a literal invasion of God into space-time but rather the Spirit providing Moses with an internal sense of the glory of God. Does this accurately represent your viewpoint?

To be honest, I find the Platonist view of God too transcendent. Barthian neo-orthodoxy being the most recent Christian manifestation of this viewpoint. It reduces Christianity to merely ethics and feelings and excludes providence and revelation.

BTW, ya'll made me go and reread Plantinga...and now I have a headache. ;)
112 posted on 01/26/2004 10:50:48 PM PST by lockeliberty
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To: ksen
This could be considered baiting.....

And didn't Jesus promise to make us all fishers of men?

Just to be fair, there are also those who think that if Arminius didn't think it, then it isn't worthy of thought.

To many people all theological thinking had been completed by 1550 AD. I believe that to date we have only uncovered a fraction of one percent of the mysteries of God's Word. While the Word of God is complete, our understanding of it is as seeing through a glass darkly.

113 posted on 01/26/2004 10:56:51 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: P-Marlowe
To many people all theological thinking had been completed by 1550 AD. I believe that to date we have only uncovered a fraction of one percent of the mysteries of God's Word. While the Word of God is complete, our understanding of it is as seeing through a glass darkly.

I don't know anyone on this board that felt, or feels, that all theological thinking was completed by 1550.

I just thought that it was interesting that in one breath someone would exclaim their happiness in having an attack-free zone in which to air their ideas and in the next breath attack those who have refrained from jumping in.

114 posted on 01/26/2004 11:00:59 PM PST by ksen (HHD - Dilandau is..........my sister!)
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To: lockeliberty; betty boop
Thank you so very much for your reply and for sharing your views! And please take care of that headache!

To be honest, I find the Platonist view of God too transcendent.

I find this statement engaging but will wait to hear betty boop's reply before offering any "two cents". That should probably be only one cent because I'm more informed on the math applicability of Platonism. LOL!

With reference to Plantinga at al, Lurkers might find this link helpful for an overview.

115 posted on 01/26/2004 11:11:45 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Hey, I'm still riffing on the whole deal about being the smart tip of the spear... I've been standing a little taller the last couple of hours and checking out my reflection in the windows...
116 posted on 01/26/2004 11:17:27 PM PST by marron
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To: ksen
I just thought that it was interesting that in one breath someone would exclaim their happiness in having an attack-free zone in which to air their ideas and in the next breath attack those who have refrained from jumping in.

Show me a post where I exclaimed happiness at having an attack free zone.

I have indicated that this is Jim Rob's forum and he sets the rules. I will do my best to abide by those rules. As you should too. My post was not meant as any kind of personal attack. It was a general statement about people who think that any attempt to convey some new theological idea is an attack on the citadels of Christianity.

I detect a bit of sardonic attitude in your post. It seems to me that you are claiming that I am attacking people who are refraining from posting because I know they won't respond. Who EXACTLY have I personally attacked? Name that person.

Hey, I'm not preventing anyone from responding. I'm inviting them to respond. But many have indicated an unwillingness to abide by the new posting rules. I am willing to abide by them. Are you?

117 posted on 01/26/2004 11:21:51 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
I wen t back and looked and it was xzins that was saying how happy he was to be "attack" free.

Your post followed right after, my apologies for attributing xzins' remark to you.
118 posted on 01/26/2004 11:30:41 PM PST by ksen (HHD - Dilandau is..........my sister!)
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To: betty boop
". The living being, in other words, requires an enormous amount of information to maintain itself, as well as the ready ability to effectively process this information. It seems the living being must also be able to discriminate between information that helps it, and what doesn’t. Choice, discrimination, are everywhere in this scenario; free will is absolutely essential, indispensable for the life process “to work.” "

Well said.
119 posted on 01/26/2004 11:37:32 PM PST by marron
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To: ksen; P-Marlowe
I am pleased with the new atmosphere. May it last a long time.
120 posted on 01/27/2004 3:17:08 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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