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To: polemikos; A.J.Armitage
(A) The Papacy and the Magisterium don't rely on sola Scriptura and (B) the Papacy and the Magisterium don't lead to error, so I must confess I don't see your point.

Not to speak for AJ But I do think the point is that you claim that Sola Scriptura causes apostasies and cults etc.

AJ's point was that you DO NOT use the Bible as the basis for your faith and yet it can not keep itself together either ..

B) So you believe the selling of indulgents for the dead ..and In advance to your own sin so you could buy your own way into heaven was not an error??...

You need to look at the cafeteria Catholics ..each believing what they choose..

People in glass houses should not caste stone

798 posted on 01/25/2004 11:00:24 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I do think the point is that you claim that Sola Scriptura causes apostasies and cults etc.

It is hard to escape the fact that sola Scriptura leads to heresy.

AJ's point was that you DO NOT use the Bible as the basis for your faith and yet it can not keep itself together either ..

That is a sadly mistaken notion, both in and of itself, and for how it misrepresents AJ's comment. Without the Catholic Church you would not even have a Bible.

"We are obliged to yield many things to the Papists--that with them is the Word of God, which we received from them; otherwise we should have known nothing at all about it."
- Luther, Commentary on John, ch. 16.

854 posted on 01/25/2004 1:44:46 PM PST by polemikos ("To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant" - John Henry Newman)
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To: RnMomof7
Oops. Forgot to reply to the 2nd part of your post.

So you believe the selling of indulgents for the dead ..and In advance to your own sin so you could buy your own way into heaven was not an error??...

Is the doctrine of indulgences biblically sound? Yes.
Did some within the church abuse this doctrine? Yes.
Is that sufficient cause to reject the Catholic Church?

Before I answer that, let me ask you: Are the actions of Judas sufficient reason to reject the teachings of Jesus?

If not, then I think it is obvious that the sins of clerics is not a sufficient reason to reject the teachings of the Catholic Church.

You need to look at the cafeteria Catholics ..each believing what they choose..People in glass houses should not caste stone

Are inadequately catechised Catholics a scandal? Absolutely.
Does that in any way refute the doctrines of the Catholic Church? Absolutely not.
872 posted on 01/25/2004 2:27:39 PM PST by polemikos ("To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant" - John Henry Newman)
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