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To: GirlShortstop
Yours are valid questions.

I was referring mainly to the opening parapgraph.

The God presented to American Catholics today is the Rodney Dangerfield of gods: He gets no respect. Today, God hardly needs to be worshipped, since He's our buddy, our pal, our equal. No need to fear Him or stand in awe, no difficult obligations on our part -- we need only feel the warm fuzzies He showers upon us, until we die and He takes us instantly to Heaven.

What is the Church?

Is the Church made up of the saved?

Or does the Church provide the salvation?

Not trolling just asking.

16 posted on 01/15/2004 6:02:01 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY; johnb2004; ninenot
Yours are valid questions.   Thank you.
Not trolling just asking.  Good news!  FReegards.
17 posted on 01/15/2004 6:19:25 PM PST by GirlShortstop (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.)
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To: PFKEY
"Or does the Church provide the salvation?"

We are saved through the bitter Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Church provides us with the Holy Sacraments, and helps us do what we oughtta in a zillion ways.

I'm a convert, too, and one of the things that has amazed me is that the Church is so much bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.
19 posted on 01/15/2004 7:04:14 PM PST by dsc
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To: PFKEY
"Is the Church made up of the saved?"

The Church is a supernatural entity, the Bride of Christ, established by Our Lord. It is more than just "the saved," although the saved are part of it.
20 posted on 01/15/2004 7:06:37 PM PST by dsc
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