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Ah, yes, I remember you. The wee little one that kept nipping at the heals and could not be made to behave. Have we changed? Doesn't appear to be the case.. All the things in both statements are required.

I guess I missed the "To be continued" or "Please see this other message" disclaimers in your message(s).

As you wrote:

"Perhaps you've missed the cleverly disguised point of all this - to get it right. It isn't about bashing or finger pointing. It's about dealing forthrightly about the facts and pointing out the correct path."

please see - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/656646/posts?page=48264.

Indeed, sir, indeed. Please don't take exception to others who insist on the same.

You'll note the difference between becoming a christian and remaining one and that thusly the context from which you ripped these things to present an appearance of something wrong... Any more slander you wish to engage in whilest you're at it?

Slander? Sorry, that dog don't hunt. An inconsistency was noted - and a darn important one at that - between two statements that you made. In one case (in Statement 1) it was downright error. I'm interested in souls and truth. What about you?

Your statements were not taken out of context - context was provided, along with the statements in question. Let's look for now at the first statement. You were clear of what it took to in becoming Christian in the first statement quoted:

1) Repent
2) Confess
3) Learning Scripture and following Christ

What about believe? As in confess and believe - believe and confess - i.e. remittance of sin, Paul also mentions this (e.g. born again, saved). Christ was clear in Mark 16, and Paul discussed this as well. You are not clear, indeed, you are errant. Both are required. Not just one - both. You've stated that:

"What does the scripture say? Believe and confess. Period. Both are required - not just one and we'll think about the other."

please see - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/656646/posts?page=7586.

We'll hold off on Statement 2 for now, and the issue of be[ing] a Christian. Statement 1 is sufficient and makes the point quite well. Scripture is inerrant. The Holy Spirit is inerrant. Christ is inerrant. What you wrote is errant and it was documented and noted as such. Concerning your other comments, how your ego (e.g. "nipping at heals [sic], could not be made to behave") handles someone noting you erring in representing Scripture - using your citations as references - is your concern. Facts, logic, reasoning and faith might be appropriate.

Souls and truth, Havoc. If that is what you believe is important, I'd ask you to be consistent with how you represent Scripture.

It's not an inconsistancy, as stated. And anyone who's read my comments on this issue knows that I hammer on repentance followed by compliance with Mark 16 requiring being born again and baptised in the Spirit, Romans 8 and John 10 - requiring being born again listening to and following in the Holy spirit AND the direction of the Apostles to reject anything which is different from the message they taught (requirement to know the scriptures).
This is not new. It seems to step on your toes along with those of meny other sects; but, that's scripture.

As I said before, you know this and you know your reputation from the Christian Chronicles threads. As per usual, you want to whine about the consequence of your behavior rather than behaving as a christian. That is your problem to solve, not mine. And your behavior is the reason you aren't directly speaking to me, or did you forget that part? I haven't.