Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Dr Warmoose
Friend,

Perhaps you are confused. The Church founded by Christ is headed by His Vicar on earth. No teachings have EVER changed. The pope has no authority to change Christ's teachings. Disciplines can change. Doctrine may develop, but never contradict the Truth.

The canon of Scriture was defined by the catholic Church. This was done well after the last apostle was gone. As I stated before...Christ founded a Church, not a book.



Your limited understanding of the Christian faith comes from not accepting the fullness of Truth.

You bow to yourselves when you make yourself a god by accepting the grave heresy of sola scriptura.
165 posted on 01/04/2004 12:17:19 PM PST by johnb2004
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies ]


To: johnb2004
Perhaps you are confused. The Church founded by Christ is headed by His Vicar on earth. No teachings have EVER changed.

Pope Zosimus (417-418 A.D.) reversed the pronouncement of a previous pope. He also retracted a doctrinal pronouncement that he himself had previously made. Pope Honorious was condemned as a heretic by the Sixth Ecumenical Council (680-681 A.D.). (This means that Honorious made doctrinal statements which are contrary to the Roman Catholic faith.) He was also condemned as a heretic by Pope Leo II, as well as by every other pope until the eleventh century. So here we have "infallible" popes condemning another "infallible" pope as a heretic. In 1870, the First Vatican Council abolished "infallible" papal decrees and the decrees of two "infallible" councils.

The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary was officially declared to be a dogma of the Roman Catholic faith on November 1, 1950. This means that every Roman Catholic is required to believe this doctrine without questioning it. However, as we will see, the teaching of the Assumption of Mary originated with heretical writings which were officially condemned by the early Church. In 495 A.D., Pope Gelasius issued a decree which rejected this teaching as heresy and its proponents as heretics. In the sixth century, Pope Hormisdas also condemned as heretics those authors who taught the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary. Here we have "infallible" popes declaring a doctrine to be a heresy. Then on November 1, 1950, we have Pope Pius XII (another "infallible" pope) declaring the same doctrine to be official Roman Catholic doctrine, which all Catholics are required to believe.

So before November 1, 1950, any Catholic who believed in the Assumption of Mary was a heretic (because of "infallible" declarations of popes). But after November 1, 1950, any Catholic who failed to believe in the Assumption of Mary was a heretic (because of the "infallible" declaration of Pope Pius XII).

In 1864, Pope Pius IX "infallibly" declared that the idea that people have a right to freedom of conscience and freedom of worship is "insanity," "evil," "depraved," and "reprobate". He also declared that non-Catholics who live in Catholic countries should not be allowed to publicly practice their religion. In 1888, Pope Leo XIII "infallibly" declared that freedom of thought and freedom of worship are wrong.

The Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) produced a document entitled "Declaration on Religious Liberty" which states that all people have a right to freedom of religion.

Now I certainly agree with the idea of freedom of religion. However, it totally contradicts the "infallible" declarations of Popes Pius IX and Leo XIII. It also contradicts the anathemas of the Council of Trent, the killing of "heretics," the Inquisition, the burning of people who translated the Bible into the language of the common people, and the persecution of Protestants.

Freedom of religion also contradicts modern Canon Law (1988). Canon 1366 says that parents are to be punished with "a just penalty" if they allow their children to "be baptized or educated in a non-Catholic religion". The reference to baptism shows that this refers to Christian religions which are not Roman Catholic.

Here the Catholic Church is on the horns of a dilemma. If it says that people have a right to freedom of religion, then it admits that it is not infallible. If it says that it is infallible, then it admits that it really does not believe that people have a right to freedom of religion.

Your limited understanding of the Christian faith comes from not accepting the fullness of Truth

Don't insult me with your lies and call me a friend, unless like "absolute" and "truth" your preferred definitions hold the opposite in meaning. I am willing to discuss spiritual things with those under the power of Rome, but at least provide some truth if yuour are going to criticize others for not holding on to truth.

172 posted on 01/04/2004 6:49:56 PM PST by Dr Warmoose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson