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To: Catholicguy
"In EP2, the ancient liturgical prayer of Epiclesis was restored. It had been part of many liturgies since the First Council of Constantinople in order to emphasize the divinity of the Holy Spirit but dropped out of western usage sometime in the first Christian Millennium."

This eejut has swallowed the liberal propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

The reason why the Roman Canon, and hence Tridentine Mass, does not have an explicit epiclesis is that it is the most ancient rite and was around long before Constantinople I and all the various Eastern rites.

It did not "drop out of usage" - it was never there in the first place. The identity of the Holy Spirit was never a case of theological dispute at the time the Roman Mass was composed.

By returning to a supposedly more ancient rite, the "reformers" have in fact introduced novelties that were never part of the Roman liturgy.
8 posted on 12/30/2003 3:15:21 PM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Tantumergo
Contact Catholic Encyclopedia Editors and alert them so they can correct this error in future issues. This entry was written by the noted liturgical liberal eeejut Fr. Adrian Fortescue.

Maybe you have fallen for the vacuous "histories" of the ill-informed integrists :)

Epiklesis

Epiklesis (Lat. invocatio) is the name of a prayer that occurs in all Eastern liturgies (and originally in Western liturgies also) after the words of Institution, in which the celebrant prays that God may send down His Holy Spirit to change this bread and wine into the Body and Blood of His Son. This form has given rise to one of the chief controversies between the Eastern and Western Churches, inasmuch as all Eastern schismatics now believe that the Epiklesis, and not the words of Institution, is the essential form (or at least the essential complement) of the sacrament

10 posted on 12/30/2003 5:27:03 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Tantumergo; Catholicguy
I think one could argue the following is a true epiclesis:

P. Veni, Sanctificator omnipotens aeterne Deus. et bene dic hoc sacrificum tuo sancto nomini praeparatum. P. Come, O Sanctifier, Almighty and Eternal God, and bless, + this sacrifice prepared for the glory of Your holy Name.

23 posted on 12/30/2003 11:12:54 PM PST by Romulus (Nothing really good ever happened after 1789.)
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To: Tantumergo
Supposedly there is a letter of St. Gelasius I that refers to an epiclesis in the Roman Canon. The Roman Canon certainly had a different original order than it does today.
34 posted on 12/31/2003 5:52:50 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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