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To: Hermann the Cherusker
"Who, the day before He suffered for our salvation and that of all men, that is, on this day, took bread into His most sacred and venerable hands" (Proper "Qui pridie quam pateratur", Holy Thursday, Missal of St. Pius V)

Let's continue shall we?

In like manner, after He had supped, taking also this excellent chalice into His holy and venerable hands, and giving thanks to Thee, He blessed and gave it to his disciples, saying: Take and drink ye all of this, FOR THIS IS THE CHALICE OF MY BLOOD, OF THE NEW AND ETERNAL TESTAMENT: THE MYSTERY OF FAITH: WHICH SHALL BE SHED FOR YOU AND MANY UNTO THE REMISSION OF SINS.

"All" are instructed to participate in Holy Communion, but the remission of sins is reserved for "many".

Go ahead, Hermann. Try to twist Christ's own words to fit your novus mold.

56 posted on 12/31/2003 11:14:10 AM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish; Catholicguy; Maximilian; St.Chuck; sandyeggo; Tantumergo; NYer
Let's continue shall we?

No lets go back. You are spewing heresy.

You: "If Christ said His blood would be shed for "all"; hell would be empty."

1 St. John 2.2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

1 St. Timothy 2.5-6 For there is one God: and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave himself a redemption for all, a testimony in due times.

Hebrews 2.9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour: that, through the grace of God he might taste death for all.

Popes Innocent X and Alexander VII: "It is Semipelagian to say that Christ died and shed his blood for all men. - Condemned Proposition"

The Roman Canon of the Tridentine Mass: "Who, the day before He suffered for our salvation and that of all men"

End of discussion. Go away and skulk somewhere else. We aren't interesting in the heresies you are peddling to the Catholic Raucous. There is nothing more to say because its just so plain and simple. Just repent or go away and stop pretending to be Catholic here. You're just plain wrong. Okay? Got it?

You are spewing Calvinism. Welcome to the Reformation, Irish. Enjoy your heresy.

63 posted on 12/31/2003 11:49:07 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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