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To: Grig
You will find in the Book of Mormon a second witness of Christ's divinity and an affirmation that only by His attonement can we be saved, not a denial of those truths.

What I am about to write I do not write to offend you or any other Mormon, but these are the facts.

The book Mormon has some very erroneous claims and things that have been shown to be prover false...FALSE!

Now you can either do one of three things:
1:You can ask me to show you factual evidence that there is falsehoods and direct contradictions to the Holy Bible in the BOM.
2:You can go investigate them yourself.
3:You can ignor the FACTS and keep to your tennents of Momonism at your own ignorance.

Like it or not J. Smith was a FALSE prophet there is no way around this fact.

One last thing, Momonism teaches three seperate personages not equal with one another unless that has changed now too because your elders realize they couldn't get around their bogus heretical claims.

You and Hawaii must be studying different BOM because Hawaii believes in the personages not equal...so did J.Smith!

196 posted on 12/26/2003 5:51:57 AM PST by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
"The book Mormon has some very erroneous claims and things that have been shown to be prover false...FALSE!"

I seriously doubt there is any accusation against the BoM you could make that I have not already investigated and found lacking. Writing it off as something that is 'proven false' might fit your bias quite comfortably, but I find it hard to belive anyone who takes that position has really honestly tested the validity of the accusations against it. I have seen a lot of dishonesty and trickery used to make false accusation against every aspect of my faith, so don't be so quick to buy into what somebody else says just because it is what you want to be true, even if it happens to be published in a book.

I am fully open to investigating whatever accusation against the BoM you wish to make, but I ask that you also be fully open to the possibility that those accusations are false and that your understanding of our faith is flawed. Likewise for the prophetic calling of Joseph Smith. If that is agreeable to you, then freepmail me your specific points.

If the idea of discussing this via freepmail is unacceptable to you, then I am not interested. I've seen too many others like you who will claim to be willing to honestly consider my replies when in reality they don't because all they want is a public soapbox to rail against my faith as some cheap way to boost their ego. I don't have time to waste talking to people who don't intend to listen. Agreeing to discuss via freepmail is a token of good faith I demand to show that your concern is with truth, not ego.

"One last thing, Momonism teaches three seperate personages not equal with one another unless that has changed now too because your elders realize they couldn't get around their bogus heretical claims. You and Hawaii must be studying different BOM because Hawaii believes in the personages not equal...so did J.Smith!"

I said they are equal in power, glory and perfection. I don't see anything from maui_hawaii or Joseph Smith contrary to that. I also said that they fulfill different divine roles. Part of Heavenly Father's role is that he presides over the three of them, and the Bible is quite clear about Christ submitting to the will of the Father. Again I don't see any contradictions with any past teachings. If you want to discuss this further in your freepmail, then could you please indicate specificly what you take 'not equal' as meaning.
207 posted on 12/26/2003 8:45:16 AM PST by Grig
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