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To: Thorin
"Of course, even if Christmas were chosen to coincide with a pagan celebration, that argument would be nonsense. For centuries, the major holiday of the West has been Christmas, and the words of the carols that have been sung by centuries (and often developed from folk music) show that people were celebrating the Birth of Christ."

Roger that. Some get so caught up with the trival. If the Gospels tell me anything it's what's in my heart is all that's important and it should be right with God. If I approach Dec. 25th in a Spirit of complete submission and gratitude for the birth of my Savior and celebrate this event in joy, witnessing and song, always realizing that my actions are the only Bible many will read.....well....I think Jesus will be alright with this. His only comment might be to ask if I can't, maybe, try to do a better job of this all the other days too. And, as always, he'll be right.

24 posted on 12/06/2007 5:05:56 PM PST by joebuck
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To: joebuck; Thorin

The question is whether you believe and trust the Holy Word of Elohim
or you trust the traditions of man

Yah'shua's birth on Sukkot is supported by Elizabeth's pregnancy of John the Immerser.
The time sequence is outlined by the Holy Word of Elohim in Luke 1 with Zacharias.

Zacharias served as a high priest and based on his tribe, we know when he served
and when he was struck dumb and when John was conceived.

John would have been born on Pesach. Most Jews believed that Elijah would come at
Pesach to announce the coming of the Messiah

Factor in when Miriam visited her cousin
Elizabeth, timing of Yah'shua's birth can be ascertained.

Nine months back from Sukkot is Chanukah where the light entered the temple.

shalom b'shem Yah'shua
25 posted on 12/06/2007 5:54:26 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: joebuck

Good post.


26 posted on 12/06/2007 6:04:58 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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