[drstevej]

EXPLANATION: I am not making Charles Wesley one of our own.

I AM saying that the verses I cited are a great metaphor for sovereign grace. Whether Charles Wesley rejected the doctrines of grace is irrelevant to my reason for including the hymn here.

Were you to run across these same words not knowing the author, I wonder if you would fawn over them or complain about them?

For me, this has been my favorite hymn for many years precisely because of the words.

[xzins]

If you don't want me here, quit pinging me, doggonit!

:>)

You KNOW I'm gonna wade in on a Charles Wesley discussion, so it's simply not fair to bear-bait.

I'm glad you like the song. And even if you don't understand it, go ahead and post it.

I never undersood "In a gadda da vida" either. (Or Louie,Louie; or ANYTHING "rap"; or why someone once thought Britney Spears was a Christian musician.)