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Yeshua
Sapphires | Jonathan Cahn

Posted on 12/14/2003 7:00:46 PM PST by WhatNot

"Jesus" is a great name with which to call the Lord. But He was never given that name - it is an English translation of the name He was given, "Yeshua." It means "God is Salvation." It is a beautiful name because it's the Lord's, but also because you are in it. Think about it - whose salvation is it? It's our salvation - it's your salvation. So you are in His name. Your need is in His name, your burden is in His name, your fears, your emptiness are in His name. All of you are in His name - Yeshua. And His love for you is in His name - Yeshua.

If you were the only one in the world who needed His salvation, He still would have given His life and become "Your Yeshua." He gave His life to save you personally, and personally is the only way you can know Him. It's not "Jesus," until you can call Him "My Jesus." It's not salvation until you can say "My Salvation." If it is not so or hasn't been so for a long time, make it so... His Holy name already has you in it - Yeshua

TODAY'S MISSION
Do you need more of a touch from God? Let Yeshua touch that place in your heart, that old fear or hurt place that needs His redemption. That is what Yeshua is all about.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: kavanah
Father, we come in the name of Jesus to plead His blood on our lives and on all that over which You have made us steward. We plead the blood of Jesus on the portals of our mind, our bodies ( the temple of the Holy Spirit), our emotions and our wills. We believe that we our protected by the blood of the Lamb that gives us access to the Holy of Holies, thank You Father, in Jesus mighty name we pray, Amen and amen.
1 posted on 12/14/2003 7:00:46 PM PST by WhatNot
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To: WhatNot
Since we are on the subject of Jesus, i want to ask why do you pray to him when he didn't pray to himself? he in fact said in John 12:44 if you believe in him, don't believe in him, believe in the one that sent him.
2 posted on 12/14/2003 11:21:31 PM PST by Dashiar
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To: WhatNot
And Amen. Regarding this article, think of how many have said, "Jeez," or "Jesus H. Christ" or "Jesus [blanking] Christ" and so on, that all these heathen really haven't been using the Lord's Name in vain at all.

Kinda makes sense now. Like your prayer was in His Name inferring His Name is not really Jesus...

3 posted on 12/15/2003 2:09:47 AM PST by Ff--150 (that we through His poverty might be rich)
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To: WhatNot
"Yeshua." It means "God is Salvation." It is a beautiful name because it's the Lord's, but also because you are in it. Think about it - whose salvation is it? It's our salvation - it's your salvation. So you are in His name. Your need is in His name, your burden is in His name, your fears, your emptiness are in His name. All of you are in His name - Yeshua. And His love for you is in His name - Yeshua.

1 posted on 12/14/2003 8:00:46 PM MST by WhatNot


What is said is correct

However: YHVH is our Salvation is more correct.


NAsbU Psalm 68:19 Blessed be the Lord, who daily bears our burden, The God who is our salvation. Selah.

a bondslave to the Christ

chuck

4 posted on 12/15/2003 10:52:34 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>)
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To: Dashiar
Since we are on the subject of Jesus, i want to ask why do you pray to him when he didn't pray to himself?

There is no reason for Jesus to pray to himself?

A) He was sinless and didn't need a mediator in order to come to the father.

B) His prayers set the example that we are to pray. When we pray, we do pray to the Father, just as Jesus did. The difference is that praying In Jesus’ Name Is praying according to His authority and character. Therefore, praying in the “name” of Jesus indicates that we pray in His authority and consistent to His reputation. This is how New Testament believers are commanded to pray. Jesus said:

If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. If ye love me, keep my commandments.(John 14:14,15).

he in fact said in John 12:44 if you believe in him, don't believe in him, believe in the one that sent him.

From personal experience, most who do not believe in Him do not have a belief in the one who sent Him either. Although Jesus told His disciples to pray for things in His name, nowhere in the New Testament do we find people praying “in Jesus’ name.” However, we do find people directly addressing Jesus in their prayers. Therefore, perhaps it is not necessary to attach the phrase, “in Jesus name” when praying when addressing Jesus direct. Whenever I prey direct to the Father, I believe we should end our prayers with "In Jesus Name" as again we are again praying according to His authority and character (and it is Jesus who is our mediator). The important thing is to address one’s prayer to the living God. He is the one who knows what we need of before we even ask it.

5 posted on 12/15/2003 2:53:22 PM PST by The Bard (http://www.reflectupon.com/)
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To: The Bard; Dashiar
Let me make a correction/clarification:

nowhere in the New Testament do we find people praying “in Jesus’ name.”

Actually, all the prayers are "in Jesus Name", it is just that they don't end either prayers as we commonly do today. It is quite common today to close a prayer with "...In Jesus name we pray, Amen"

6 posted on 12/15/2003 2:57:34 PM PST by The Bard (http://www.reflectupon.com/)
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To: Dashiar
Since we are on the subject of Jesus, i want to ask why do you pray to him when he didn't pray to himself? he in fact said in John 12:44 if you believe in him, don't believe in him, believe in the one that sent him.

Not quite ... not a command a you put it ... but, rather a statement of fact.
John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
On the order of ...
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
And, ... as to prayers in Jesus' name ...
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

7 posted on 12/15/2003 5:16:42 PM PST by Quester
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To: Quester
The Bible is full of middle eastern metaphors and similies which through greek glasses were interpreted as something with a totally different meaning. when Jesus said "he who has seen me has seen the father", he did not mean you have seen God as a man would see someone face to face, because then it would contradict John 4:12 and once you have a contradiction you can't attribute it to God. And as for John 14:14, if you ask of me something in my name i will doit too (or not doit). But you notice he said "I will do it"; Not "He will do it".
8 posted on 12/15/2003 7:17:08 PM PST by Dashiar
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To: The Bard
Well you might as well pray in the names of all the prophets then.
9 posted on 12/15/2003 7:20:28 PM PST by Dashiar
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To: The Bard
peep this,
I'm a muslim. As a Muslim we pray straight to God with not inter-mediary. We believe that Jesus is the Christ, and in his miraculous birth. We believe we did many miracles which God did by him. But we do not believe he is a begotten son of God (if God begat a son that would make him a certain age, cause the father would have to be older than the son. We believe in all the prophets from Adam, to Abraham, to Moses. They are all mentioned in the Qur'an.Jesus'name is mentioned way more times than Muhammad's (pbut). Read these two verses that God has sent in the Qur'an.

Relate in the book the story of Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the east. she put on a screen to hide herself from them: then we sent to her our Angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. she said "I seek refuge in thee to God, Most Gracious: come not near if thou fearest God". He said: "Nay, i am only a messenger from thy Lord to announce to thee the gift of a pure son." She said: "How shall i have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and i am not unchaste?" He said: "So it will be: thy Lord saith, That is easy for Me: and we wish to appoint him as a sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is a matter so decreed.
Qur'an 19:16-21


Say you: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us , and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to all the prophets from their Lord: we make no difference between one and another of them: and we submit to God.
Qur'an 2:136
10 posted on 12/15/2003 7:56:10 PM PST by Dashiar
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To: The Bard
peep this,
I'm a muslim. As a Muslim we pray straight to God with no inter-mediary. We believe that Jesus is the Christ, and in his miraculous birth. We believe he did many miracles which God did by him. But we do not believe he is a begotten son of God (if God begat a son that would make him a certain age, cause the father would have to be older than the son. We believe in all the prophets from Adam, to Abraham, to Moses. They are all mentioned in the Qur'an.Jesus'name is mentioned way more times than Muhammad's (pbut). Read these two verses that God has sent in the Qur'an.

Relate in the book the story of Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the east. she put on a screen to hide herself from them: then we sent to her our Angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. she said "I seek refuge in thee to God, Most Gracious: come not near if thou fearest God". He said: "Nay, i am only a messenger from thy Lord to announce to thee the gift of a pure son." She said: "How shall i have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and i am not unchaste?" He said: "So it will be: thy Lord saith, That is easy for Me: and we wish to appoint him as a sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': it is a matter so decreed.
Qur'an 19:16-21


Say you: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us , and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to all the prophets from their Lord: we make no difference between one and another of them: and we submit to God.
Qur'an 2:136
11 posted on 12/15/2003 7:59:22 PM PST by Dashiar
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To: WhatNot
How is Jesus the English translation of Yeshua?

12 posted on 12/15/2003 8:04:49 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Dashiar
Well you might as well pray in the names of all the prophets then

Can't...

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6

For me to pray to all the prophets would be as useless as me praying to the various "Catholic" saints. My prayers only go to the father through Jesus, as the Bible commands.

13 posted on 12/15/2003 9:44:15 PM PST by The Bard (http://www.reflectupon.com/)
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To: WhatNot
We are saved by faith alone. Faith plus anything isn't a saving faith. There might be other things that remind us of our faith in Him. Jesus Christ is known by some 300-400 names throughout Scripture. Salvation is through faith in Him. God the Father honors the faith of Christ, the Son when He was on the Cross for the salvation of all those who believe.

In regards to prayer in or through His name, Jesus Christ serves as the High Priest in the Holy of Holies. We serve as priest who are able to bring ourselves to the High Priest who in turn has a relationship with the Father.

It is only through faith in Christ that we also have that relationship with God.
14 posted on 12/15/2003 10:17:50 PM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: Dashiar
We believe that Jesus is the Christ...

That's a new one to me. Every Muslim I have ever spoken to tin the past has informed me that Jesus was a Great Phrophet, but Never has stated that Jesus is the Christ.

we do not believe he is a begotten son of God (if God begat a son that would make him a certain age, cause the father would have to be older than the son...

The belief of Jesus being "the Son" of God doesn't mean that God, at a certain time, had sex and produced a child. Jesus is the Son of God from eternity,with God from the beginning. (John1:1). He was, However, miraculously incarnated into a human being through the Virgin Mary (Matthew 2:1), to redeem our fallen human race.

Say you: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us , and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to all the prophets from their Lord: we make no difference between one and another of them: and we submit to God.

For some reason, every Muslim I have ever spoken to seems to think that when a Christian talks about the Trinity, that the Christian is talking about 3 seperate Gods. to put it in simple terms, the idea is father, son and Holy Spirit is like 1+1+1=3. That is not correct. All were presetn from the beginning, and all are the same. In the Christians mind, it is more like 1x1x1=1.

15 posted on 12/15/2003 10:27:15 PM PST by The Bard (http://www.reflectupon.com/)
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To: The Bard
Yeah we believe Jesus is the Christ (translated Messiah).
Also i can't follow the trinity because one, to except the equation would destroy our mathematical system. Two, I can't except Jesus as being part of a holy trinity:

"the father is greater than I"
john 14:28

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only"
matthew 24:36

where is the equality, the oneness? the verse that got me the most is this:

"Jesus, a MAN APPROVED BY GOD, through works and miracles which God did by him"
acts 2:22.

Three, there is no verse in the bible to support that God is made up of three and eqaul one. There's only one that comes somewhat close in the epistle of John, which says there's three in heaven and they are one. not equal one, but one in agreement, or purpose. and even that verse has been taken out certain bibles as a fabrication.

P.S I enjoy discussing these things with you by the way.
16 posted on 12/16/2003 4:24:06 PM PST by Dashiar
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