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Catholics Who Don't Think Like Catholics
Karl Keating's e-letter ^ | 12/10/03 | Karl Keating

Posted on 12/10/2003 4:48:49 AM PST by Aquinasfan

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Karl is right on the money.
1 posted on 12/10/2003 4:48:49 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: *Catholic_list
In his e-letter Karl Keating summarizes the sad state of affairs in the Church, and proposes a solution: the cold, hard truth.
2 posted on 12/10/2003 4:50:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Loyalist; narses; Hermann the Cherusker
Ping!
3 posted on 12/10/2003 6:17:10 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Aquinasfan
Direct article link
http://www.catholic.com/newsletters/kke_031209.asp
4 posted on 12/10/2003 7:12:05 AM PST by polemikos
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To: polemikos
I like Karl. He is always on target. This letter should be placed in every parish bulletin every week for the next 20 years. In fact, it should be read at mass.
5 posted on 12/10/2003 7:47:50 AM PST by johnb2004
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To: Aquinasfan
What they tell me is that the Church in this country has failed in its first task, which is instruction in the faith. If the folks in the pews don't know their religion, they can't practice it.

Amen, Amen, Amen! After 16 years of "Catholic" education I was ill prepared to understand, explain or defend the faith. This is, of course, a failure on several fronts: the Church failed to instruct, my parents failed to instruct and I failed to take the initiative to investigate a faith I claimed to hold.

How many have we lost to ignorance in exchange for those gained from adopting un, non, and even anti-Catholic practices.

Some of our shepherds are feeding the flock the Word and others are feeding the flock their word.

6 posted on 12/10/2003 7:48:47 AM PST by conservonator
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To: Aquinasfan
Reminds me of the old adage that Church "needs to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable."
7 posted on 12/10/2003 8:50:04 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: conservonator
After 16 years of "Catholic" education I was ill prepared to understand, explain or defend the faith.

Me too. I spent my twenties trying to undo the damage that had been done in the previous 12 years of public schooling, CCD, and 4 years of college.

8 posted on 12/10/2003 8:53:11 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: polemikos
Thanks for the link. I recommend signing up for the e-letter. It's always good.
9 posted on 12/10/2003 8:54:15 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sandyeggo
Are there really that few of us?

Yes. I know very few Catholics who accept the Church's teaching on birth control. Many active Catholics in our parish accept cohabitation and believe that someday women will be ordained. And about half don't seem to have a problem with voting for candidates who support abortion or homosexual marriage.

12 posted on 12/10/2003 10:45:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
I think this article should be Christian who act like Christians. I grew up in Catholic Churches, and it was not until I left the Catholic Church in 97 that I learned what it was to beleive.
13 posted on 12/10/2003 10:49:52 AM PST by Jesusfreak101
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that I learned what it was to beleive.

Which is what?

15 posted on 12/10/2003 11:12:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ..
And they need to lose congregants. They will know when they're saying what needs to be said when they see some people walk out of church.

Won't happen! And those good priests who do deliver the truth are, themselves, kicked out of their own parishes. I'm referring to Father Paul Weinberger in Dallas, TX.

Love of Latin has created controversy in Dallas parish

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


16 posted on 12/10/2003 11:28:50 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: Aquinasfan
I'd like to see the Catholic opinions broken down by Mass attendance.
17 posted on 12/10/2003 11:35:50 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Aquinasfan
"Instead of trimming their remarks to pacify (or somnabulize) their congregations, bishops and priests need to go on the offensive. They need to be blunt about the necessity of subscribing to all Catholic teachings, particularly moral teachings, since assent is weakest there. They need to talk in black and white to get people's attention. They need to focus on the hard sayings instead of on the usual fluff."

After watching the Bishops conference in Washington, I wonder how aggressive they will be. I just got the feeling that they were more concerned about their images that will befall them when the February report comes out on the scandal than in any particular strong moral leadership..
18 posted on 12/10/2003 12:01:32 PM PST by franky
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To: nickcarraway
I'd like to see the Catholic opinions broken down by Mass attendance.

I suspect the answers would be better, but not a whole lot better, I fear.

19 posted on 12/10/2003 12:20:36 PM PST by NeoCaveman (who the F is John Kerry?)
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To: dubyaismypresident; Aquinasfan; sandyeggo
I suspect the answers would be better, but not a whole lot better, I fear.

I know many daily Mass goers who support "a woman's choice", the gay lifestyle, priestesses. Upon reflection, that would be the majority of daily Mass goers. Codicil - I live in Massachusetts.

20 posted on 12/10/2003 12:32:46 PM PST by american colleen
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