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Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...
drstevej (Pope Piel I)
Posted on 12/10/2003 4:11:16 AM PST by drstevej
Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...
Arise (some mss read Swarm), O Calvinists, and plead your cause. The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, I will be like the Most High. Set forth the biblical case for a sovereign God who is jealous for His glory. Disallow through disputation (and lampooning when needed) the damnable errors of those who have refashioned the great sola doctrines into a salvation-helper gospel that exalts the fallen will of man.
From every corner, in every thread exalt the right of God to do whatsoever He pleaseth. Be not dismayed by persistent anthropocentric rantings. Blessed are you when they revile you for the sake of the truth. Happy are ye when the Servetus card is played and the strawmen are paraded before you for He who is enthroned in heaven reigns.
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To: drstevej
We are looking for a token Jansenist for our list. Know any? Wouldn't know one if I tripped over one.
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:19:56 AM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(who the F is John Kerry?)
To: drstevej; oldcodger; LiteKeeper; scandalon; Joshua; nobdysfool; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; ...
A bump to my list
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:29:21 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Deut7:7)
To: drstevej
Take a Rolaids and that bosom flare up will be all gone.Thanks. With the Rolaids, the burning in the bosom went 'down' all right, but someone flicked a bic afterwards and the water cooler got torched.
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:29:34 AM PST
by
xJones
(IMove over, Servetus)
To: RnMomof7
Lately the most interesting thing about debating predestination with people is the spirit or attitude of their response. When people start blathering during a discussion on Christian doctrine, that tells me a lot about that person and their understanding of Christian doctrine.
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:36:33 AM PST
by
biblewonk
(I must try to answer all bible questions.)
To: biblewonk
Lately the most interesting thing about debating predestination with people is the spirit or attitude of their response. When people start blathering during a discussion on Christian doctrine, that tells me a lot about that person and their understanding of Christian doctrine. Unfortunately very few Christians know any doctrine. Think what most learn in Sunday School? It is not doctrine
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posted on
12/10/2003 11:45:29 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
(Deut7:7)
To: drstevej
If you accept token Jansenists, would you want five point Calvinists like John MacArthur or the late Dr. S. Lewis Johnson, who hold to dispensational eschatology? How about Calvinistic Baptists like C. Haddon Spurgeon or Dr. Alfred Mohler?
To: drstevej
"A man is not saved against his will, but he is made willing by the operation of the Holy Ghost. A mighty grace which he does not wish to resist enters into the man, disarms him, makes a new creature of him, and he is saved." --Charles Spurgeon
Add me please.
To: RnMomof7
You should have heard the Methodist commercial I heard this morning on TV. It showed a woman stairing out a window as if thinking about her lover or husband. There was a romantic male voice saying "I love you, I have loved you since before you were borne bla bla love bla bla love something something, .... Love God".
With modification the commercial would have had some truth but the tone was romance and a single woman. It was gross.
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:12:03 PM PST
by
biblewonk
(I must try to answer all bible questions.)
To: biblewonk
Barney Theology: I Love you, You Love Me...."
It's bad enough that I hear it with my toddler all day long, but worse when Christians apply it as the primary character of God.
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:28:26 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(Nothing but happy controversy free posts from me!)
To: Wallace T.
***would you want five point Calvinists like John MacArthur or the late Dr. S. Lewis Johnson, who hold to dispensational eschatology?***
While this list consists of FR folk, those four are within the scope of our menagerie. Yours truly is a credo-baptist, classic dispensationalist who studied under Dr. S.L. Johnson*. The term "Reformed" in this ping list references the doctrines of grace rather than other Reformed tenets. For full disclosure, I am an Amyrauldian (T-U-_-I-P Calvinist) and also the favorite of several here to be the next Pope. (see my profile page)
==
*BTW, I am one of two people I know who holds degrees from both Dallas and Westminster Seminaries. The other is currently an OPC pastor.
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:31:46 PM PST
by
drstevej
To: biblewonk
With modification the commercial would have had some truth but the tone was romance and a single woman. It was gross.I don't watch television so I don't know about the ad, but did they use Fabio's voice as 'God'? It would have been perfect.
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:41:40 PM PST
by
drstevej
To: Wallace T.
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:43:53 PM PST
by
drstevej
To: drstevej
Add me to the GRPL
"I am not ignorant that, as the Israelites loathed the manna, because that every day they saw and ate but one thing, so there are some now-a-days (who will not be held of the worst sort) that, after once reading some parcels of the scripture, do commit [turn] themselves altogether to profane authors and human lectures, because the variety of matters therein contained does bring with it a daily delectation, where contrariwise, within the simple scriptures of God, the perpetual repetition of a thing is fashious [tiresome] and wearisome. This temptation, I confess, may enter into God's very elect for a time; but it is impossible that they continue therein to the end; for God's election, besides other evident signs, has this ever joined with it, that God's elect are called from ignorance (I speak of those that are come to the years of knowledge), to some taste and feeling of God's mercy, of the which they are never satisfied in this life, but from time to time they hunger to eat the bread that descended from heaven, and they thirst to drink the water that springs to life everlasting, which they cannot do but by the means of faith and faith looks ever to the will of God revealed by his word, so that faith has both her beginning and continuance by the word of God. And so I say that it is impossible that God's chosen children can despise or reject the word of their salvation of any long continuance, neither yet loathe it to the end. "
John Knox 1556 excerpt from A Letter of Wholesome Counsel,
Addressed to His Brethren in Scotland
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:45:53 PM PST
by
4Godsoloved..Hegave
(Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
To: Wallace T.
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:46:44 PM PST
by
drstevej
To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody
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posted on
12/10/2003 12:58:36 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: Dr Warmoose
I don't watch television so I don't know about the ad, but did they use Fabio's voice as 'God'? It would have been perfect. I don't know. I was eating breakfast and not watching but the sound was oozing romance.
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posted on
12/10/2003 1:01:28 PM PST
by
biblewonk
(I must try to answer all bible questions.)
To: drstevej
"Works, works! a man gets to heaven by works! I would as soon think of climbing to the moon on a rope of sand." - George Whitefield, last sermon
"Add me to the list you must. Yeeesssss...mmmm hmmmm hmmm"
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posted on
12/10/2003 1:04:22 PM PST
by
Frumanchu
(mene mene tekel upharsin)
To: Gamecock
Not that God doesn't love us but there are different kinds of love. If I loved my daughter the way I love my wife, I'd go to jail. Those lines shouldn't be crossed but they sure were in this commercial.
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posted on
12/10/2003 1:09:14 PM PST
by
biblewonk
(I must try to answer all bible questions.)
To: biblewonk
My point is that modern Christians ignore the number one attribute of God. We push that attribute into a dark corner because it is what will be the undoing of the unelect. It is such an uncomfortable trait that even the elect at times cringe when it is considered in it's rightful context.
What is that trait?
HOLINESS
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posted on
12/10/2003 1:16:30 PM PST
by
Gamecock
(Nothing but happy controversy free posts from me!)
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