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To: Catholicguy; Hermann the Cherusker
Dear Catholicguy,
I believe you have put the cart (School of Salamanca) before the horse (the massacres of Cortez). I greatly appreciate the school of Salamanca in their role in the development of western legal thought. Unfortuntely for you, it was a reaction against the harms caused by the Holy Roman Empire and the continual progress against the Gregorian/Papal revolution.

The ball is in your court. Please feel at liberty to post any 16th or 17th Century decisions from your communion that recognised such rights and defended injuns

Gladly! How about some Johannes Althusius?

A magistrate in whose realm the true worship of God does not thrive should take care that he not claim imperium over that area of the faith and religion of men that exist only in the soul and conscience. God alone has imperium in this area. To him alone the secrets and intimate recesses of the heart are known. And he administers his kingdom, which is not of this world, through his ministers of the Word. For this reason, faith is said to be a gift of God, not of Caesar. It is not subject to the will, nor can it be coerced. If in religion the soul has once been destroyed, nothing henceforth remains, as Lactantius says. We are not able to command religion because no one is required to believe against his will. Faith must be persuaded, not commanded, and taught, not ordered. Christ said to his disciples who were willing to destroy the Samaritans, 'Are you ignorant of whose spirit you are sons?'[42] The emperor Constantine said that to inflict bodily punishments upon men whose minds have been captured is senseless and stupid to the extreme.[43]

Those who err in religion are therefore to be ruled not by external force or by corporal arms, but by the sword of the spirit, that is, by the Word and spiritual arms through which God is able to lead them to himself. They are to be entrusted to ministers of the Word of God for care and instruction.[44] If they cannot be persuaded by the Word of God, how much less can they be coerced by the threats or punishments of the magistrate to think or believe what he or some other person believes. Therefore, the magistrate should leave this matter to God, attribute to him the things that are his — who alone impels, leads, and changes hearts — and reserve to himself what God has given him, namely, imperium over bodies. He is forbidden in his administration to impose a penalty over the thoughts of men. Whoever therefore wishes to have a peaceful realm should abstain from persecutions. He should not, however, permit the practice of a wicked religion lest what occurred to Solomon may happen to him.[45] But if he cannot prohibit it without hazard to the commonwealth, he is to suffer it to exist in order that he not bring ruin to the commonwealth.[46] So the emperor Constans, son of Constantine the Great, permitted the religion and collegia of the Arians not for their benefit, but for the commonwealth's. And Theodosius tolerated this sect against his will.

Hey, he even goes soft on your communion. ;)

The theologians determine how far it is permitted to have private contacts with infidels, atheists, impious men, or persons of different religions by distinguishing between the learned, the faithful, the uneducated, and the weak, and the purposes for which the contacts are to be held.[40]

The same can be said about papists born in the territory of the magistrate or having homes there. The magistrate can in good conscience permit them to live within the boundaries of the realm if the pious do not partake of their superstitions, live familiarly with them, or contract marriages with them. Furthermore, the magistrate ought not to permit them temples for the practice of their idolatrous worship.

508 posted on 12/15/2003 2:51:47 AM PST by lockeliberty
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To: lockeliberty
Not too bad. I was seeking info about any protestant authority who specificially wrote/intervened to stop the prot slaughter of injuns as the Pope and the Catholic authorities of Spain did.


What the gentleman does say is, generally, true nevertheless
510 posted on 12/20/2003 1:08:40 PM PST by Catholicguy
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To: lockeliberty
Oh, I just thought of something. When Protestant England was hunting and killing the aboriginal inhabitants of Tasmania and using their dead human flesh to feed their dogs, did any Protestant Theologians intervene/condemn that evil slaughter?
511 posted on 12/20/2003 1:12:54 PM PST by Catholicguy
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