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To: franky
This is a good example of legalism in the church. Go to the bible and read the text when Jesus Christ gives an answer on how to pray. You see it is so simple when you read the bible. You do need man to tell you how to pray, where to pray! If people would understand what Jesus talked about being against , traditions of man. If you took the time to research the catholic religion you would sadily see how they are more into there traditions, than into teaching truely what the Holy Bible teaches! Also if a catholic is reading this, ask Our Lord and Savior to remove any blinders from your inner man, your soul. Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal only God's truths to you. The bible is clear when it states, "You have not because you ask not". Missionary David Galindo
12 posted on 11/21/2003 2:19:34 PM PST by ibtheman
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To: ibtheman
This is a good example of legalism in the church...

This is a good example of misunderstanding Catholic practices.

When a community comes together to worship and pray, the liturgy provides guidelines or rules for the community to follow. It would make no sense for 500 people to all do their own thing, now does it?

And don't even get me started on "traditions of man." If you want that, go join a Protestant church.

Yes, I am feeling cranky today.
13 posted on 11/21/2003 2:27:37 PM PST by polemikos
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To: ibtheman
If you took the time to research the catholic religion you would sadily see how they are more into there traditions, than into teaching truely what the Holy Bible teaches!

What do you mean? Could you cite some examples?

14 posted on 11/21/2003 5:33:03 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: ibtheman
“Matthew 6
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

Catholics know this verse as well as any bible believing church.

“If people would understand what Jesus talked about being against , traditions of man.”

You will have to define that statement???

“If you took the time to research the catholic religion you would sadily see how they are more into there traditions, than into teaching truely what the Holy Bible teaches!"

All Catholic tradition is based on the scriptures. The Seven Sacraments are biblical. The Corporal Works of Mercy are biblical. The Spiritual Works of Mercy are biblical.

The corporal works of mercy:
· To feed the hungry;
· To give drink to the thirsty;
· To clothe the naked;
· To harbour the harbourless;
· To visit the sick;
· To ransom the captive;
· To bury the dead.

The spiritual works of mercy are:
· To instruct the ignorant;
· To counsel the doubtful;
· To admonish sinners;
· To bear wrongs patiently;
· To forgive offences willingly;
· To comfort the afflicted;
· To pray for the living and the dead.

If any of the forgoing Catholic teaching disturbs you then you really do not know the Catholic Church.

I will include you in my prayers tonight. I pray to Our Lord for wisdom every night.

Come Holy Spirit, fill the heart of David and kindle in him the fire of Your love. Sent forth Your Truth and You shall renew him.



15 posted on 11/21/2003 7:31:48 PM PST by franky
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