[dsc]

Hey, Joseph and Mary were married. So what if they had relations or didn't have relations? If they did, it wasn't a sin.

What is that to thee and me?

Speaking for myself, credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem, Creatorem caeli et terrae; et in Jesum Christum, Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum; qui conceptus est de Spiritu Sancto, natus ex Maria Virgine; passus sub Pontio Pilato, crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus; descendit ad inferos; tertia die resurrexit a mortuis; ascendit ad caelos, sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis; inde venturus est judicare vivos et mortuos. Credo in Spiritum Sanctum; sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem; remissionem peccatorum; carnis resurrectionem; et vitam aeternam.

If you want to believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary, that doesn't bother me. If you want to vigorously disbelieve in the perpetual virginity of Mary, that doesn't bother me either.

I don't think it's a central issue, or even a terribly important issue. Whichever, she intercedes for us in a big way.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

If you want to believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary, that doesn't bother me. If you want to vigorously disbelieve in the perpetual virginity of Mary, that doesn't bother me either.

I don't think it's a central issue, or even a terribly important issue. Whichever, she intercedes for us in a big way.

How can you say that after you just confessed it as an integral part of the Creed?

natus ex Maria Virgine

That is "born of the Virgin Mary" [perpetual virginity], not "born virginally of Mary" [virgin birth only].