[dangus]

>> The point being the Jesuits were banned by Pope Clement XIV. If they had "continued within the Church..." it certainly was in opposition to the Pope. IOW your claim is not factual on it's face.

THat was my point: learn about the Jesuits. See how they succeeded in reforming the Church. They did it. You presume its false on its face because you presume it cannot be done. It can be done; it's been done.

The Church is not in the business of canonizing heretics and schizmatics. The fact that these "disobedient" Jesuits are now in the Church's good graces means that there was a way to do it. They told the Pope "You're wrong, we're right" and won.

[OLD REGGIE]

"The Church is not in the business of canonizing heretics..."

Joan of Arc:

1431 Convicted of heresy and burned at the stake.
1920 Canonized by Pope Benedict XV.

This convicted "heretic" is now Saint Joan of Arc!