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To: jboot
Elvish spirits may be rebodied by the will of the Valar, but with one exception (Luthien) may not return to Middle Earth.

Glorfindel was an exception as well. Tolkien wrote that the Glorfindel who died killing a balrog in the fall of the elves' hidden city (the name of which escapes me at the moment) was the same Glorfindel as met Aragorn and the hobbits at the Ford of Rivendell.

74 posted on 11/06/2003 1:17:44 PM PST by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian
Glorfindel was an exception as well. Tolkien wrote that the Glorfindel who died killing a balrog in the fall of the elves' hidden city (the name of which escapes me at the moment) was the same Glorfindel as met Aragorn and the hobbits at the Ford of Rivendell.

Hmmmm....would be an interesting "twist" if Haldir would show up at the end of the ROTK to escort the party to the Grey Havens.

75 posted on 11/06/2003 1:28:51 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (www.wardsmythe.com)
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To: The Grammarian
Glorfindel was an exception as well.

I forgot about him...maybe because he wasn't in the movie. ;-)

I recall reading somewhere that Tolkien produced this resurrection inadvertantly by using the same character in different roles, apparently without forethought. He then invoked the Valar to explain the contradiction. After all, Glorfindel was certainly a special guy. Now why he got a better deal than Luthien (who had to die a second time) I can't say. Luthien should try to get her money back.

The city was Gondolin. It gets a quick mention in the Hobbit.

76 posted on 11/06/2003 1:29:02 PM PST by jboot (Faith is not a work; swarming, however, is.)
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To: The Grammarian
Who was the leader of the Elves during the Last Alliance. He fell at the great battle where Sauron was defeated, but his name eludes me.
78 posted on 11/06/2003 1:43:10 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: The Grammarian
Who was the leader of the Elves during the Last Alliance? He fell at the great battle where Sauron was defeated, but his name eludes me.
79 posted on 11/06/2003 1:43:17 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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