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To: AlguyA
I have yet to find a Protestant who actually agrees with either of these creeds.

You need to get out more dave.I have been in many non Catholic churches and they all accept them as valid

http://www.religiouseducation.co.uk/school/ks3/year9/guide_info/christian.htm

95 posted on 11/04/2003 11:13:36 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; AlguyA
You need to get out more dave.

He's Al. I'm Dave. ;-)

I have been in many non Catholic churches and they all accept them as valid

They accept the words, but they don't accept the creeds. That is, like everything else, the creeds have been re-interpreted. Take, for instance, this posting of yours. It is utterly inconsistent with the creedal pronouncement of belief in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.

Don't even begin on the "communion of saints."

SD

100 posted on 11/04/2003 11:27:33 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: RnMomof7
"I have been in many non Catholic churches and they all accept them as valid "

Oh, I agree most Protestants claim they accept the Nicene Creed, but they really don't -e.g. the communion of saints. Rather, Protestant (partial)adherence to the creeds is an historical artifact necessitated by Protestant reluctance to leave Rome totally, particularly with respect to the Trinitarian view of God. Hence, in order to support a Trinitarian view of God, Protestants maintain their supposed belief in the creeds while manufacturing theologies totally out-of-sync with the theology which undergirded those who formulated the creed. Thus, they really don't believe in the Nicene Creed as promulgated in the 300's. Instead they believe in a creed formulated 1200 years later and then call it the Nicene Creed because they use the same words. Pardon the vulgarity but,... one can pour donkey urine in a wine bottle, but its still donkey urine.

This is, essentially, what many Protestants have done. They've taken the same words as the Nicene Creed (the bottle) and infused them with meanings(the, well, you get the idea) different than those which the councils intended.

Hence, I would argue virtually every Protestant I've ever met really DOESN'T believe in the creeds.

106 posted on 11/04/2003 11:45:07 AM PST by AlguyA
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