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To: SoothingDave
>Tell me you see a difference? We hold a standard, even if we can't live up to it. Versus collapsing your standards.<

I see a difference in upholding a standard and giving in as the Episcopalians have done.I question whether you can make the case that the standard is really being upheld by the Catholic Church.the Southern Baptist Church has removed heretical theologians from their seminaries.Have the Roman Catholics? I can show you numerous cases of ministers who lost their churhes over failure to keep their marriage vows.How many Gay/Pedophilic Priests were transferred to other post.It is easy to say you have standards but the proof is in the pudding.(that's a collective you.Your personnel standards are obviously ones we share)
267 posted on 11/05/2003 8:43:29 AM PST by Blessed
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To: Blessed
I see a difference in upholding a standard and giving in as the Episcopalians have done.I question whether you can make the case that the standard is really being upheld by the Catholic Church

You are still talking about actions. "Upholding" the standard means that our official teachings state that homosexuality is a grave disorder and any homosexual act is always intrinsicly morally wrong.

I can also tell you that our official teaching says that lusting after a woman is wrong, but Catholic men do it all the time. It doesn't mean we have no standard, just that we are sinners.

Let me put it this way. The priests and bishops who abused children or even had "adult" homosexual relations could have proclaimed from the pulpit that there is nothign wrong with their behavior. They could hold a council and say "hey whatever makes you feel good." But they don't.

Why? Cause they can't. It would be impossible to reconcile these sinners choice of sin with the already clear and historical and yes, traditional teaching of the Church.

SD

271 posted on 11/05/2003 8:50:00 AM PST by SoothingDave
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