[irishtenor]

You keep saying "the church says", Martin Luther says, etc. I quoted scripture. Defend it. You called me a liar. God's word says that I am right. Are you calling God a liar? Show me the scripture that says that Mary is sinless. I showed you scripture that says that NO ONE is sinless. No one was found worthy to open the seal, no one in heaven or on earth. No one. Defend it. I don't care what the Catholic church says if it goes against scripture. If the Cathoilc church says that Mary is sinless and the Bible says that no one is without sin, guess what, the Bible wins. Sorry about that.

[IGNATIUS]

Historic Christianity gave you your Bible!The NT canon didn't hop up onto a table off the floor.The books which made the cut were selected by men under inspiration of God the Holy Spirit.The criteria was whether it was in accord with oral tradition passed from Christ,the Apostles, and the Church Fathers.

[AlguyA]

"I showed you scripture that says that NO ONE is sinless. No one was found worthy to open the seal, no one in heaven or on earth

Really? No one?