[Romulus]

If the Bible and the Catholic church disagree about something,

It's not possible to respond to your question as you've framed it. You're begging the question here, even if you don't realise it. To say that "the Bible disagrees" is to assume that the Bible speaks for itself. This is the very question we're debating, of course -- which I claim to be an impossibility. A more accurate way of putting it is "so-and-so's reading of the Bible disagrees with the Catholic Church."

Put that way, if a private interpretation of the Bible is at variance with the Catholic Church, the private reading is in error. As the Bible itself says.

[irishtenor]

ALL RIGHT. I WILL TRY TO PUT IT IN A WAY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAYS TO PRAY TO MARY AND THE SAINTS, THE BIBLE SAYS TO PRAY TO GOD ONLY. IT NEVER SAYS TO PRAY TO MARY. WHICH ONE IS RIGHT.

There, easy question. One says one thing, one says another. Which one do you go by?

[irishtenor]

If the church is at variance with what is IN BLACK AND WHITE IN THE BIBLE, the church is wrong, dead wrong.