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To: Jean Chauvin
does the person God regenerates to belief "receive" Christ?

Person A gets regenerated by God. Since this was done irresistibly, then they have not yet had a conscious thought about belief. Since being an unbeliever is the sign of a lost and not an unregenerate person, then that person must at some point believe. (Interesting thought; is it possible to be regenerated and yet be an unbeliever? It is illogical, therefore, they must be irresisibly implanted with 'believingness' as well.) Since the "believing" and the "receiving" are merely synonymous expressions for the same work, then it is necessary (within a C'vist framework) for the person to be irresistibly brought to receiving Christ after they've been regenerated. That is what I'd expect a calvinist to say. Correct?

32 posted on 10/20/2003 8:38:17 PM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: xzins
Xzins, remember logical order, not temporal order. How easily you forget.
33 posted on 10/20/2003 8:41:01 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: xzins
A simple "Yes" would do, x.

You were utilizing that passage, I think, in an attempt to show Biblical support for "Free-Willism".

However, Calvinism also testifies that the individual "receives" Christ. That is not something that is exclusive to Arminianism.

The problem I was showing you was that this passage only shows what happens to an individual in the event that that individual "receives" Christ.

The problem for you is that this passage does not speak to or inform us of just ~HOW~ one "receives" Christ. It simply and only tells us that those who "received" were given the power to become the sons of God.

Therefore, in the attempt to support the "Free-Will" philosophical paradigm, you are once again guilty of an eisegetical interpretation of a Biblical passage.

Jean
41 posted on 10/21/2003 3:35:40 PM PDT by Jean Chauvin (History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man...Godzilla!)
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