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Northern Calif. mourns Schwarzenegger win
AP | 10/12/03 | RACHEL KONRAD

Posted on 10/12/2003 10:27:06 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 10/12/2003 10:59:20 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) ? Arnold Schwarzenegger is taking office with a clear mandate from millions of people in Southern California's suburbs and the state's vast interior, where 70 percent of voters favored recalling Gov. Gray Davis.

But liberals are mourning along the state's northern coast, particularly San Francisco, where 80 percent voted against the recall. In the city that nurtured beatniks in the '50s and hippies in the '60s, Schwarzenegger came in a distant second to Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante among the replacement candidates.

Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital. Others are surrendering to reality, moving from denial to acceptance of the Republican actor's impending move to Sacramento.

Oscar Grande is still "in shock" over the results of Tuesday's recall election, but the environmental activist takes comfort knowing his friends and neighbors feel equally disturbed by the Republican actor's lopsided victory.

"This is still San Francisco, and we're like our own little island from the rest of California," said the 30-year-old organizer at an environmental justice organization in the city's Mission district. "The folks in the suburbs and the Central Valley were so pumped about him ? it really blew me away."

Southern Californians voted overwhelmingly to oust the despised Davis and replace him with Schwarzenegger. Nearly three out of four voters in Orange County supported the recall, and Schwarzenegger received 64 percent of the replacement vote, soundly thumping Bustamante's 17 percent.

In San Diego County, home of Republican Rep. Darrell SSA, who spent nearly $2 million to launch the recall, 66 percent of voters favored getting rid of Davis.

"I feel upbeat for once," said Oceanside resident Rex Wait, 45, one of the 59 percent of county voters who picked Schwarzenegger.

Schwarzenegger won decisively not only in the Southern California suburbs that gave Richard Nixon his start in politics, but across most of inland California, where the actor spent much of his two-month campaign.

The recall had the largest support, 77 percent, in Stutter and Lasses counties northeast of Sacramento, where Schwarzenegger struck a chord with people who wanted to oust the governor.

"He just seems like he's genuine, honest and wants to clean it up," said P.J. Wick, a 62-year-old housewife from Yuma City in Stutter County, where she said farmers have struggled with taxes, water problems and higher energy costs.

California's interior has been growing more conservative for at least a decade. But Schwarzenegger's support in sparsely populated farming communities provided a stunning example of the long-term geopolitical shift, said John J. Pitney Jr., a professor of government at Claremont McKenna College.

Instead of the traditional north-south divide that characterized the Golden State throughout the 20th century, lines are increasingly drawn between older communities along the coast, with expensive housing and environmental activism, and inland communities with vast subdivisions and socially conservative agricultural regions.

"The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic," Pitney said. "Maybe it has something to do with the ideological values of communities that have popped up along the coast, as well as concern for the environment."

The trend may bode well for Republicans in future elections as development comes to California's remaining rural spaces.

Placer County, which goes from east of Sacramento to the Nevada line, added more jobs than any county in the nation in 2001, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and it had the fastest-growing county population in California in 2002, according to the U.S. Census. Nearly 72 percent of Placer voters favored the recall, and 63 percent chose Schwarzenegger.

The trend troubles David Orleans, a 32-year-old insurance underwriter who moved to San Francisco five years ago in part because of the liberalism championed by Democratic Mayor Willie Brown and U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

"The answer to the current political clash in California is simple," Orleans joked. "Coastal California from L.A. northward should secede from the rest of the state."

Nearly seven out of 10 voters opposed the recall in Marin County, across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco. Bustamante received 48 percent of the vote, compared to 32 percent for Schwarzenegger.

Marin County author Anne Lamott, whose novels often depict loss, says she cried herself to sleep after Tuesday night's election. But she woke on Wednesday and renewed her liberal values.

"I will keep registering voters and taking care of the poor and sending money to the ACLU, and marching for peace, in the hope and belief that we can get our country back from the rich oil men who have sold our country out," Lamott said.

Mark Malone, a computer marketer from Santa Cruz County, where 65 percent of voters opposed the recall, accepted the election and is trying to be optimistic.

"Part of me says the old guard isn't having the best go at it, so maybe we should try and get a new perspective on things," Malone said. "I'm totally conflicted on the whole thing."

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Associated Press Writers Brian Melley in Sacramento, Kim Curtis in San Francisco, Elliot Spagat in San Diego, and Martha Mendoza in Santa Cruz contributed to this report. /blockquote>



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To: glaux
Conservatism is the logical direction to go, given the abject failures of leftist policies througout the globe.

People have short memories, though.

41 posted on 10/12/2003 1:29:07 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: Burlem
With regard to the win in California, I am in Butte County, we overwemingly voted to oust Davis, I wonder if too much is being made out of the fact that Arnold won. He is hardly conservative, now if McClintock had won that would be the story.

It's only been a few days. Many here are still a little tipsy on it. They'll come back to Earth eventually.

42 posted on 10/12/2003 1:30:51 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: nutmeg
bump
43 posted on 10/12/2003 1:32:03 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh: The Voice of Sanity during 8 years of the Clinton Reign of Terror)
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To: NYpeanut
Maybe we all need to send that pensive ditz a karmic hug....
44 posted on 10/12/2003 1:42:54 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (The quality of Leftists is at Third World levels....©)
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To: kattracks
Schwarzenegger won decisively not only in the Southern California suburbs that gave Richard Nixon his start in politics...

Mark Steyn was right:

Schwarzenegger, who came from Austria where Adolf Hitler got his start, won overwhelmingly in the Southern California suburbs where Richard Nixon got his start. Two facts that are completely irrelevant except to the leftist media where, oops, Ronald Reagan got his start.

45 posted on 10/12/2003 1:47:46 PM PDT by Tall_Texan ("Is Rush a Hypocrite?" http://righteverytime2.blogspot.com)
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To: kattracks
Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital

WOW!!!
What a dream come true for the hard-working, traditional American families of California!

Good grief! I hope somebody is listening and aggressively pursues this idea. Throw in a few other parasite nests like Los Angeles and Sacramento and they can really have a socialist utopian paradise to be proud of, yessirree.

46 posted on 10/12/2003 1:49:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: LieFreeGov
it's not a sea water thing....it's a bay area post-LSD insane asylum.

LOL!! Ain't that the truth!

47 posted on 10/12/2003 1:53:44 PM PDT by kstewskis
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To: kattracks
"The trend may bode well for Republicans in future elections as development comes to California's remaining rural spaces.

Placer County, which goes from east of Sacramento to the Nevada line, added more jobs than any county in the nation in 2001, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and it had the fastest-growing county population in California in 2002, according to the U.S. Census. Nearly 72 percent of Placer voters favored the recall, and 63 percent chose Schwarzenegger.

The trend troubles David Orleans, a 32-year-old insurance underwriter who moved to San Francisco five years ago in part because of the liberalism championed by Democratic Mayor Willie Brown and U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein."

The money quotes. And as the rest of CA goes more conservative, while the liberal enclaves lose jobs, the liberals will try to protect themselves by declaring that they are an endangered species.
48 posted on 10/12/2003 1:54:19 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: kattracks
This is stupid. The Bay Area is the only region that voted against the recall. Even LA county voted yes. California has a lot of coast and most of it is not part of the Bay Area.
49 posted on 10/12/2003 1:54:31 PM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: Lancey Howard
The idea of forming a State of Jefferson out of Southern Oregon has a long, colorful history. I think it could safely include everything safely north of Marin County.

But the denizens of San FagDisco would NOT like it... it would not be safe for them to travel across the border...

50 posted on 10/12/2003 1:57:39 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Utilizer
Ever hear about the State of Jefferson? New state comprised of southern Oregon and Northern California almost made it before WWII.
51 posted on 10/12/2003 1:59:43 PM PDT by OregonRancher
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To: kattracks
In San Diego County, home of Republican Rep. Darrell SSA, who spent nearly $2 million to launch the recall, 66 percent of voters favored getting rid of Davis.

How many times does it have to be pointed out that Darrell Issa launched nothing? He accelerated the recall, but he did not launch it.

For something as tectonic as the recall, you'd think these reporters could at least get their facts straight. This should be common knowledge by now.

Sheesh.

52 posted on 10/12/2003 2:38:30 PM PDT by Catalonia
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To: kattracks
Marin County author Anne Lamott, whose novels often depict loss, says she cried herself to sleep after Tuesday night's election. But she woke on Wednesday and renewed her liberal values.

What an idiot!

53 posted on 10/12/2003 2:41:09 PM PDT by Catalonia
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To: No Truce With Kings
And as the rest of CA goes more conservative, while the liberal enclaves lose jobs, the liberals will try to protect themselves by declaring that they are an endangered species.

Oh, if only that were the case!

54 posted on 10/12/2003 3:50:41 PM PDT by kstewskis (135 days until Lent and "The Passion" is released...and no I am NOT giving up Mel for Lent!)
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To: kattracks
We have 2 cousins in the bay area. I know one of them is crying in his Merlo right now.
55 posted on 10/12/2003 3:51:24 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: MattAMiller
California has a lot of coast and most of it is not part of the Bay Area.

Although that is the pathological mindset of these morons. It is especially evident, not only in this election, but in the newer transplant/invaders who move from "The Bay Area" into other states and try to push their socialistic laws and ideas on the locals.

And believe me, they're not impressing anyone.

56 posted on 10/12/2003 3:56:18 PM PDT by kstewskis (135 days until Lent and "The Passion" is released...and no I am NOT giving up Mel for Lent!)
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To: ambrose; Carry_Okie
A "Coastal CA," vs "Superior CA" ping!!!
57 posted on 10/12/2003 4:07:29 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I prefer consistent "Considerate Conservatives," to "Compassionate Conservatives," everytime !!!)
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To: kattracks
what a very RUDE title to this article...as if northern California doesn't have any conservatives. Biased media - here they go again.
58 posted on 10/12/2003 4:11:20 PM PDT by Libertina (Steadfast loyalty - The sign of a true friend and leader.)
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To: Catalonia
How many times does it have to be pointed out that Darrell Issa launched nothing? He accelerated the recall, but he did not launch it.

For something as tectonic as the recall, you'd think these reporters could at least get their facts straight. This should be common knowledge by now.

But that would be giving credit to that eeeeeevil conservative talk radio station, KSFO 560...

59 posted on 10/12/2003 4:25:24 PM PDT by null and void
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To: AgThorn
I'd rather they form a separate country...and take all the rest of the U.S.'s libs with them.
60 posted on 10/12/2003 4:49:27 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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