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Northern Calif. mourns Schwarzenegger win
AP | 10/12/03 | RACHEL KONRAD

Posted on 10/12/2003 10:27:06 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 10/12/2003 10:59:20 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) ? Arnold Schwarzenegger is taking office with a clear mandate from millions of people in Southern California's suburbs and the state's vast interior, where 70 percent of voters favored recalling Gov. Gray Davis.

But liberals are mourning along the state's northern coast, particularly San Francisco, where 80 percent voted against the recall. In the city that nurtured beatniks in the '50s and hippies in the '60s, Schwarzenegger came in a distant second to Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante among the replacement candidates.

Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital. Others are surrendering to reality, moving from denial to acceptance of the Republican actor's impending move to Sacramento.

Oscar Grande is still "in shock" over the results of Tuesday's recall election, but the environmental activist takes comfort knowing his friends and neighbors feel equally disturbed by the Republican actor's lopsided victory.

"This is still San Francisco, and we're like our own little island from the rest of California," said the 30-year-old organizer at an environmental justice organization in the city's Mission district. "The folks in the suburbs and the Central Valley were so pumped about him ? it really blew me away."

Southern Californians voted overwhelmingly to oust the despised Davis and replace him with Schwarzenegger. Nearly three out of four voters in Orange County supported the recall, and Schwarzenegger received 64 percent of the replacement vote, soundly thumping Bustamante's 17 percent.

In San Diego County, home of Republican Rep. Darrell SSA, who spent nearly $2 million to launch the recall, 66 percent of voters favored getting rid of Davis.

"I feel upbeat for once," said Oceanside resident Rex Wait, 45, one of the 59 percent of county voters who picked Schwarzenegger.

Schwarzenegger won decisively not only in the Southern California suburbs that gave Richard Nixon his start in politics, but across most of inland California, where the actor spent much of his two-month campaign.

The recall had the largest support, 77 percent, in Stutter and Lasses counties northeast of Sacramento, where Schwarzenegger struck a chord with people who wanted to oust the governor.

"He just seems like he's genuine, honest and wants to clean it up," said P.J. Wick, a 62-year-old housewife from Yuma City in Stutter County, where she said farmers have struggled with taxes, water problems and higher energy costs.

California's interior has been growing more conservative for at least a decade. But Schwarzenegger's support in sparsely populated farming communities provided a stunning example of the long-term geopolitical shift, said John J. Pitney Jr., a professor of government at Claremont McKenna College.

Instead of the traditional north-south divide that characterized the Golden State throughout the 20th century, lines are increasingly drawn between older communities along the coast, with expensive housing and environmental activism, and inland communities with vast subdivisions and socially conservative agricultural regions.

"The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic," Pitney said. "Maybe it has something to do with the ideological values of communities that have popped up along the coast, as well as concern for the environment."

The trend may bode well for Republicans in future elections as development comes to California's remaining rural spaces.

Placer County, which goes from east of Sacramento to the Nevada line, added more jobs than any county in the nation in 2001, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and it had the fastest-growing county population in California in 2002, according to the U.S. Census. Nearly 72 percent of Placer voters favored the recall, and 63 percent chose Schwarzenegger.

The trend troubles David Orleans, a 32-year-old insurance underwriter who moved to San Francisco five years ago in part because of the liberalism championed by Democratic Mayor Willie Brown and U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

"The answer to the current political clash in California is simple," Orleans joked. "Coastal California from L.A. northward should secede from the rest of the state."

Nearly seven out of 10 voters opposed the recall in Marin County, across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco. Bustamante received 48 percent of the vote, compared to 32 percent for Schwarzenegger.

Marin County author Anne Lamott, whose novels often depict loss, says she cried herself to sleep after Tuesday night's election. But she woke on Wednesday and renewed her liberal values.

"I will keep registering voters and taking care of the poor and sending money to the ACLU, and marching for peace, in the hope and belief that we can get our country back from the rich oil men who have sold our country out," Lamott said.

Mark Malone, a computer marketer from Santa Cruz County, where 65 percent of voters opposed the recall, accepted the election and is trying to be optimistic.

"Part of me says the old guard isn't having the best go at it, so maybe we should try and get a new perspective on things," Malone said. "I'm totally conflicted on the whole thing."

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Associated Press Writers Brian Melley in Sacramento, Kim Curtis in San Francisco, Elliot Spagat in San Diego, and Martha Mendoza in Santa Cruz contributed to this report. /blockquote>



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1 posted on 10/12/2003 10:27:06 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Its mourning in America 2003. Come 2004, liberals will be faced with the full measure of their defeat.
2 posted on 10/12/2003 10:33:27 AM PDT by glaux
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To: kattracks
Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital. Others are surrendering to reality, moving from denial to acceptance of the Republican actor's impending move to Sacramento.

Oh Lord, where do I sign!!! The rest of California would love it if the wacko extremist welfare-centric San Francisco area WOULD form a separate state ... that would cease a tremendous drain, a loud "sucking sound" that leaches from the rest of the state year round!!

3 posted on 10/12/2003 10:33:41 AM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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4 posted on 10/12/2003 10:33:51 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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""The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic," Pitney said. "Maybe it has something to do with the ideological values of communities that have popped up along the coast, as well as concern for the environment.""

Well, the truth is that most of the universities are located on the coast. And universities almost always dictate the politics around them.

5 posted on 10/12/2003 10:34:38 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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To: kattracks
""The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic,"

That would explain politics in Hawaii.

6 posted on 10/12/2003 10:40:10 AM PDT by etcetera
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To: EggsAckley
""The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic,"

One can only hope for a Tidal Wave.
7 posted on 10/12/2003 10:40:37 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: kattracks
Maybe this would appeal to some San Franciscans:

DAVIS

8 posted on 10/12/2003 10:42:03 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (No matter where you go... there you are.)
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"This is still San Francisco, and we're like our own little island from the rest of California," said the 30-year-old organizer at an environmental justice organization in the city's Mission district. "The folks in the suburbs and the Central Valley were so pumped about him ? it really blew me away."

You know, I had a wish fulfillment dream last night where San Fransico and ajoining communities actually was silly enough to put out a petition to become their own state.. Twelve million signatures were gathered outside the San Fransico area in three days, mostly because the printers couldn't print the petitions fast enough.

Ahh well, it was just a dream...
9 posted on 10/12/2003 10:44:24 AM PDT by kingu (Just helping...)
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To: EggsAckley
Well, the truth is that most of the universities are located on the coast. And universities almost always dictate the politics around them.

This is true, but it can't be the only reason leftists seem to occupy huge chunks of the East and Left coasts.

I've often wondered why much of our nation's prime oceanfront real estate is occupied by leftists. How did this happen?

Part of the answer is that two-income, childless "families" -- gays and childless couples -- moved into neighborhoods, gentrified them, and drove housing prices up so high that traditional families couldn't afford them.

I know this has happened in many neighborhoods in San Francisco.

10 posted on 10/12/2003 10:45:17 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: kattracks
"This is still San Francisco, and we're like our own little island from the rest of California," said the 30-year-old organizer at an environmental justice organization in the city's Mission district. "

Oh, how the rest of California and the country, for that matter, wished you all were cut off in your own little socialistic-commie freak of an island.

And while you're at it, take Berkley with you.

11 posted on 10/12/2003 10:50:15 AM PDT by kstewskis
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"The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic," Pitney said.

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Marin County author Anne Lamott, whose novels often depict loss, says she cried herself to sleep after Tuesday night's election. But she woke on Wednesday and renewed her liberal values.

Looks to me as if the liberals are supplying their own salt water.

12 posted on 10/12/2003 10:53:12 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (No matter where you go... there you are.)
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To: glaux
The only way 2004 can be another sweep of sorts would be if there is a constant haranguing on the theme that the Democrats are socialists and blockers of any financial reform.

Until Republican politicians grow some backbone, the party will keep bouncing back and forth in elections and barely get a majority.

If the Republicans get bold, they could get these super majorities for a while and make some proper changes for the government.

That is how I see it anyway.
13 posted on 10/12/2003 10:54:23 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: EggsAckley
"The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic," Pitney said. "Maybe it has something to do with the ideological values of communities that have popped up along the coast, as well as concern for the environment."

In San Diego County, home of Republican Rep. Darrell SSA, who spent nearly $2 million to launch the recall, 66 percent of voters favored getting rid of Davis.

San Diego isn't exactly in the High Desert, you dolt. You're pathetic argument doesn't wash, even with the many conservative communities who are along the coast.

This Pitney imbicile's problem isn't the salt water, it's the seaweed he's smoking.

14 posted on 10/12/2003 10:56:02 AM PDT by kstewskis
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To: kattracks
Schwarzenegger came in a distant second to Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante among the replacement candidates.

...Proving how idiotic these people truly are.

Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital.

The book's already been written and it was pretty funny - and pathetically stupid:  Ecotopia.

15 posted on 10/12/2003 10:56:48 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: kattracks
I live in Sonoma County which went 60% against the recall. It is truly a liberal county as is the whole bay area. But many of our friends are conservative. The main county paper is owned by the NY Times which tells you the way it leans. The political situation is completely controlled by the far out libs. Lynn Woolsey is our representative whose about as liberal as you can get. She is supporting Dennis Kucinich for president which shows you how liberal she is.
16 posted on 10/12/2003 10:57:02 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: AgThorn
The rest of California would love it if the wacko extremist welfare-centric San Francisco area WOULD form a separate state ... that would cease a tremendous drain, a loud "sucking sound" that leaches from the rest of the state year round!!

The idea of succession within various states has been around for quite a while, California no exception. Some time ago (10+ years) I read an article in the SF Chronicle on the history of various California succession movements, which varied from splitting it east-west to north-south.

At the time, the idea of splitting SF from the inland counties was the idea-du-jour, but demographics were such that the inland counties were much poorer than the wealthy Bay Area counties and the money flow was actually from the Bay Area to the rest of N. California. This article, however, hints that that demographic may have changed due to urban flight, the high-tech bust, etc. It would be interesting to see what the economic demographics of N. California are today.

On another but similar note, some html god should post that red/green county-by-county California map of the recall election. It would put this article into perspective.

17 posted on 10/12/2003 10:57:48 AM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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"Marin County author Anne Lamott, whose novels often depict loss, says she cried herself to sleep after Tuesday night's election."

What a leftie wimp...

Hey Anne...go hug a whale.

18 posted on 10/12/2003 11:01:17 AM PDT by spokeshave (Cancel the San Jose Merc and the one way truck to Nevada)
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"I will keep registering voters and taking care of the poor and sending money to the ACLU, and marching for peace, in the hope and belief that we can get our country back from the rich oil men who have sold our country out," Lamott said."

19 posted on 10/12/2003 11:02:46 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: shhrubbery!
You're right. Santa Cruz County is now just about the highest housing market in the nation. The "average" home goes for over $400K. "Average" meaning 2 BR, (maybe) 2 Bath, (maybe) a carport.
20 posted on 10/12/2003 11:03:27 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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