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Making the Argument for War
Upper Valley Free Press ^ | 10-11-2003 | Daryl L. Hunter

Posted on 10/12/2003 8:08:25 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter

As a well informed political wonk and news junkie the only argument George Bush had to present to me for war with Iraq was the well documented fact that Saddam Hussein was giving the parents of Palaniastian suicide bombers (terrorists) $25,000. This inducement for Palestinian parents to sell their children on the idea of an early death was a good investment for terrorist supporter Saddam Hussein to stir the pot further fomenting the Palestinian/ Israeli conflict that is the burr under the saddle of every Muslim alive. This animus by design practiced by Osuma, Saddam and others bonds Muslims together against a perceived evil (the USA) and aids despots like Saddam to rally their subjects against a common enemy therefore becoming distracted from their domestic oppression at home. As an informed person I understand that as long as there is unrest in Israel Muslim's will hate Americans for their support of Israel. I also realize world opinion negates George Bush's ability to make this argument as a primary reason for war.

Some in this country need a little more reason than I do to remove megalomaniac, genocidal, hate mongering, despots from power. So George Bush had to argue the 17 United Nations resolutions that Saddam flagrantly had violated during the 10 years since Gulf War One, defaulting on his cease-fire agreement, thereby circumventing the need to make the first argument. This second argument also wasn't enough for some.

To convince green party members, anti-global anarchists, Frenchmen, earth-fisrters, ACLU supporters and democrats George Bush had to put forth another argument by using Bill Clinton's explanation for bombing Iraq in 1998, "weapons of mass destruction". The fact is that when some people make up their minds about someone (George Bush) there isn't an argument in the world that will sway them as their faith in opposition of their opponent defies reason. Even if it is an argument they have gladly swallowed previously delivered by a different messenger.

Some argue that Saddam's fingerprints weren't on 9-11. I agree but that doesn't exonerate him from being a terrorist enabler, financier of notorious magnitude and a go to guy for volatile goodies to fight the west and quite worthy of our pursuit and annihilation in our war on terror.

Do I believe that Saddam has WMD's? Undoubtedly! Was it a pivotal argument? No! Was it the only argument for war? No! In retrospect George Bush shouldn't have put forth redundant arguments in his effort to sell everyone on war as to try to reason with the unreasonable is a fool's errand.

Those that oppose George Bush regardless of what he says and does have seized on the WMD argument because we have yet to find small hidden items in a large country. It is only a matter of time until we find WMD's at which time many liberal journalists will have the opportunity to fill their pie holes with crow.

Regardless of non-acceptance by some of George Bush's redundancy in argument, one less megalomaniac, genocidal, hate mongering, despot controls a rogue nation to harbor terrorists and manufacture, market, hide or launch his present or future WMD's and I'm damn glad about it and the world is a safer place.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: iraqwar; terrorism
This is exasperating in a time of war

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1 posted on 10/12/2003 8:08:25 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter
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2 posted on 10/12/2003 8:10:27 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
I'm with you. Frankly, after 9/11, I'm ready to go to war with anyone who gives us a dirty look.
3 posted on 10/12/2003 8:18:05 AM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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To: wizardoz
I don't understand why everyone doesn't feel like that.
4 posted on 10/12/2003 8:23:53 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
In large part because of the Bush Administration itself. A few months ago, the mainstream media began to use the fact that chem and bio weapons had not been found as a means to question the immediacy of the Iraqi threat, saying that apparently the situation was not as grave as the Bush administration had let on, else we would have found vast quantities of WMD. The GOP and the White House then pointed out that they had never said that the threat was imminent, that the Powell Doctrine calls for removal of a threat before it becmes imminent.

This, I think, hurt the Bush administration in two ways: first, the quibbling and hair-splitting over the use and precise meaning of the term "imminent" brought back memories of his predecessor ("It depends on what the meaning of is is.") Second, it tied the imminence (ok, gravity, immediacy) of the threat to WMD, ignoring the imminence of the other ways in which Hussein could hurt us. Al qaida didn't need chems or bios to hurt us on 9-11, yet the focus has been on WMD.

What President Bush should have said was something like,"Hell yes, Saddam and Iraq are imminent threats. We may not have found WMDs yet, but we know he is funding terrorism, we know he has the wherewithal and means to hurt us in many other ways. Yes, he's an imminent threat, so we took him out. This is neither in violation of, nor does it invalidate, the Powell Doctrine; said doctrine simply does not apply, because the threat is already imminent."

Would have sounded much less Clinton-esque then splitting hairs over the word "imminent".

5 posted on 10/12/2003 8:44:59 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
Well, the thing is, if he'd said that, those same SOBs who are tearing him down now would go back over his major speeches, all of which are online at the White House webpage, and say, "But BEFORE you said it wasn't imminent! Now you're saying it WAS!" And then they'd actually have quotes to back up their "Bush lied" attacks. Because if you actually do read his speeches, which I did about 3 days ago just to see how they look in retrospect, he's just been consistent. He's saying the same thing now as he ever did. It's NOT the same as "what 'is' is," although some have managed to spin it that way.
6 posted on 10/12/2003 8:55:20 AM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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To: wizardoz
I just wish that Bush would have made a stronger argumnent with less reasons in his effort to get "everyone on board"

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7 posted on 10/12/2003 9:02:15 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: Cacophonous
If Saddam wasn't an imminent threat, why did we have to contain him every day for the last 12 years?
8 posted on 10/12/2003 9:44:04 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (assonance and consonance have nothing on alliteration)
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To: optimistically_conservative
If Saddam wasn't an imminent threat, why did we have to contain him every day for the last 12 years?

That's what is so sickening about the whole thing, it's a lot more about politics than truth and safety.

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9 posted on 10/12/2003 10:27:23 AM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: optimistically_conservative
Exactly. Thats' the point the President should have made.
10 posted on 10/12/2003 10:50:07 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: wizardoz
I'm with you. Frankly, after 9/11, I'm ready to go to war with anyone who gives us a dirty look.

THATs what I'm talkin about! Of course that would make me on of those Pro war neo con imperialists.Might doesn't make right but I see nothing wrong with being both.
11 posted on 10/12/2003 1:32:10 PM PDT by edchambers (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: edchambers
Might doesn't make right but I see nothing wrong with being both.

Yep! Moreover, I'd rather be wrong than dead.

12 posted on 10/12/2003 4:35:39 PM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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To: optimistically_conservative
If Saddam wasn't an imminent threat, why did we have to contain him every day for the last 12 years?

That's a good point. Worth saying twice.

13 posted on 10/12/2003 4:37:30 PM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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To: wizardoz
Yep! Moreover, I'd rather be wrong than dead.

That makes perfect sense to me! You must be a another neo con.

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14 posted on 10/12/2003 5:19:02 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter
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