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Enough to Make You Sick?[Spew Alert!]
The New York Times (Magazine) ^ | 10-12-03 | Helen Epstein

Posted on 10/12/2003 6:20:56 AM PDT by johnny7

October 12, 2003 -- Beverly Blagmon lives in the School Street housing projects in southwest Yonkers, a once-vibrant manufacturing area just north of New York City long mired in unemployment and poverty. Beverly has asthma, diabetes, high blood pressure, rheumatoid arthritis, gout and an enlarged heart, and her blood has a dangerous tendency to clot spontaneously. She is 48, and she had her first heart attack in her late 20's. One of her brothers died of heart failure at 50, and another died of kidney failure at 45, as did a sister who was 35. A young cousin recently died of cancer. In the past three years, at least 11 young people she knows have died, most of them not from gunshot wounds or drug overdoses, but from disease.

Monica, who asked that her last name not be used, moved to the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn from School Street a year ago. She has diabetes, arthritis and asthma. She is overweight, and the pain from a back injury that occurred four years ago makes it hard for her to walk or even bend over a stove. Her elaborately braided hair is tinged with gray. In the past year, six of her friends have died, all of them younger than she is. When asked simple questions about her life -- when she was born, where she grew up, when her three children were born -- Monica answers in short phrases, wiping tears from her eyes. She is 36.

Ebony Fasion, 22, and her friend Dominique Faulk, 17, both former residents of School Street, have asthma. Dominique's cousin Jo-Scama Wontong, 19, still lives in the School Street projects. Jo-Scama has lost so many people she loved to disease and accident recently that whenever she thinks about it, she is stricken with panic. ''My heart beats so fast, and I can't breathe, and there's just death going through my mind the whole time.''

Something is killing America's urban poor, but this is no ordinary epidemic. When diseases like AIDS, measles and polio strike, everyone's symptoms look more or less the same, but not in this case. It is as if the aging process in people like Beverly and Monica were accelerated. Even teenagers are afflicted with numerous health problems, including asthma, diabetes and high blood pressure. Poor urban blacks have the worst health of any ethnic group in America, with the possible exception of Native Americans. Some poor urban Hispanics suffer disproportionately from many health problems, too, although the groups that arrived most recently, like Dominicans, seem to be healthier, on average, than Puerto Ricans who have lived in the United States for many years. It makes you wonder whether there is something deadly in the American experience of urban poverty itself.

The neighborhoods where Beverly, Monica, Ebony, Dominique and Jo-Scama live look like poor urban areas all across the country, with bricked-up abandoned buildings, vacant storefronts, broken sidewalks and empty lots with mangy grass overgrowing the ruins of old cars, machine parts and heaps of garbage. Young men in black nylon skullcaps lurk around the pay-phones on street corners. These neighborhoods are as segregated from the more affluent, white sections of metropolitan New York as any township in South Africa under apartheid. Living in such neighborhoods as southwest Yonkers, central and East Harlem, central Brooklyn and the South Bronx is assumed to predispose the poor to a number of social ills, including drug abuse, truancy and the persistent joblessness that draws young people into a long cycle of crime and incarceration. Now it turns out these neighborhoods could be destroying people's health as well.

There are many different types of disadvantaged neighborhoods in America, but poor urban minority neighborhoods seem to be especially unhealthy. Some of these neighborhoods have the highest mortality rates in the country, but this is not, as many believe, mainly because of drug overdoses and gunshot wounds. It is because of chronic diseases -- mainly diseases of adulthood that are probably not caused by viruses, bacteria or other infections and that include stroke, diabetes, kidney disease, high blood pressure and certain types of cancer.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bluezone; poverty
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The fruits of Johnsons “Great Society”.
1 posted on 10/12/2003 6:20:57 AM PDT by johnny7
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2 posted on 10/12/2003 6:23:07 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: johnny7
I'll bet these people are not so sick that they can't reproduce.
3 posted on 10/12/2003 6:30:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: johnny7
There are many different types of disadvantaged neighborhoods in America, but poor urban minority neighborhoods seem to be especially unhealthy. Some of these neighborhoods have the highest mortality rates in the country, but this is not, as many believe, mainly because of drug overdoses and gunshot wounds. It is because of chronic diseases -- mainly diseases of adulthood that are probably not caused by viruses, bacteria or other infections and that include stroke, diabetes, kidney disease, high blood pressure and certain types of cancer.

All these diseases are related to one thing... OBESITY.

It's America's fault because our "poor" are TOO WELL-FED.

4 posted on 10/12/2003 6:37:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: johnny7
These are the cultural and spiritual human landfills totally created by liberalism (not that the democrats would ever take even the slightest responsibility for their work).

I know the area well. It is home to toilet cleaners and nannies for the democrat liberal elite in neighboring wealthy areas. The only thing that these two groups have in common is that they all vote democrat: First: the poor, badly educated, drug-befuddled, completely exploited blacks and hispanics, too ignorant to even know how enslaved they are....

Secondly their exploiters: the limousine liberals, lawyers, media types, the Clintons, and other left wing rich vermin who live in wealthy neighborhoods of the rest of Westchester County.

5 posted on 10/12/2003 6:40:52 AM PDT by friendly (Man is so made that whenever anything fires his soul, impossibilities vanish.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
stroke, diabetes, kidney disease, high blood pressure and certain types of cancer. All these diseases are related to one thing... OBESITY. It's America's fault because our "poor" are TOO WELL-FED.

You hit the bullseye!!!!

The NY Times missed this obvious point because it is so anti-American that it can never admit that the poor are well fed!!!

6 posted on 10/12/2003 6:47:11 AM PDT by friendly (Man is so made that whenever anything fires his soul, impossibilities vanish.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
All these diseases are related to one thing... OBESITY.

Yes... and a dash of VIOLENCE and SLOTH too.

7 posted on 10/12/2003 6:57:28 AM PDT by johnny7
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"predispose the poor to a number of social ills, including drug abuse, truancy and the persistent joblessness that draws young people into a long cycle of crime and incarceration"

The really sad thing is that the left will be wailing and gnashing their teeth after reading this article and propose to fix it with more of the same.

It's the long cycle of crime and leftist "solutions" that predispose people to being poor and committing those same social ills, not the other way around.
8 posted on 10/12/2003 6:59:57 AM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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The fruits of Johnsons “Great Society”

Perhaps...but the media wants to find out: What did Bush know and when did he know it?

9 posted on 10/12/2003 7:12:10 AM PDT by Drango (What's mine is mine: And what's yours is yours: And what's mine is not yours.)
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nEW yORK Slimes story executive summary: Fat, lazy people get old, minorities suffer worse.

It is because of chronic diseases -- mainly diseases of adulthood that are probably not caused by viruses, bacteria or other infections and that include stroke, diabetes, kidney disease, high blood pressure and certain types of cancer.

What a Country! Only the USA "poor" suffers in their old age from chronic overeating and a general lack of exercise. The medical community coins a new word for the disease: Diabesity.

Meanwhile, while the rest of the world's poor die from malnutrition whenever socialists use food as a weapon.

10 posted on 10/12/2003 7:16:12 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (Write a wise saying and your name lives forever.)
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To: friendly
Did anyone else find this odd....

"She has arthritis"
"Her elaborately braided hair...."

I suppose she could have it done, but that would be expensive, just struck me odd.

11 posted on 10/12/2003 7:19:59 AM PDT by OMalley
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To: johnny7
These are all lifestyle problems, related to smoking, drinking, drug abuse, sexual incontinence and overeating. These sad, sorry people might not be in this state had half a century of compassionate leftism not destroyed the institutions by which such conditions are usually avoided.
12 posted on 10/12/2003 7:21:21 AM PDT by Agnes Heep
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To: johnny7
Obviously, whitey's fault!
13 posted on 10/12/2003 7:34:25 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: friendly
Once the Democrats had plantations, slaves and cotton. The cotton and slaves allowed the Democrats to live well, with out themselves working. After the Civil war, the Democrats use oppression and took government offices in their old slave states and more or less lived off of oppressing the sons and daughters of slaves. Then came the Civil Rights era, more or less targeted against these Democrats. So, in order for the Democrats to prosper they had to promote the degeneration of the grand children of the slaves and hence, the Welfare State was born. The Democrats, mostly employed in government jobs, social service jobs and the like now use the pathologies of the minorities as their crop. The Democrats thrive off this. Increased government spending, which goes mostly to them. Hollywood, drug dealers, etc are the field bosses or capos of the Neo-Plantations. Minorities are the crop. Mind destroying public schools, destruction of inner city small business and economic life are the tools to insure ever increasing pathologies and hence money in the years to come.
14 posted on 10/12/2003 7:41:59 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: OMalley
Did anyone else find this odd.... "She has arthritis" "Her elaborately braided hair...." I suppose she could have it done, but that would be expensive, just struck me odd.

Keep in mind the source: The New York Times.

This is above all a propaganda piece with an agenda. The truth is secondary to the democrat party (Hillary national health care) line.

15 posted on 10/12/2003 7:43:59 AM PDT by friendly (Man is so made that whenever anything fires his soul, impossibilities vanish.)
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To: Leisler
Once the Democrats had plantations, slaves and cotton. The cotton and slaves allowed the Democrats to live well, with out themselves working. After the Civil war, the Democrats use oppression and took government offices in their old slave states and more or less lived off of oppressing the sons and daughters of slaves. Then came the Civil Rights era, more or less targeted against these Democrats. So, in order for the Democrats to prosper they had to promote the degeneration of the grand children of the slaves and hence, the Welfare State was born. The Democrats, mostly employed in government jobs, social service jobs and the like now use the pathologies of the minorities as their crop. The Democrats thrive off this. Increased government spending, which goes mostly to them. Hollywood, drug dealers, etc are the field bosses or capos of the Neo-Plantations. Minorities are the crop. Mind destroying public schools, destruction of inner city small business and economic life are the tools to insure ever increasing pathologies and hence money in the years to come.

A perfect analysis. I totally agree with your observations.

16 posted on 10/12/2003 7:45:28 AM PDT by friendly (Man is so made that whenever anything fires his soul, impossibilities vanish.)
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To: Tacis
Obviously, whitey's fault!

Well it is, actually... but a certain brand of whitey. Hint: think latte, soy products, incense, co-ops...

17 posted on 10/12/2003 7:51:03 AM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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To: friendly
Well the NY times and the dims must figure we are as stoopid as they are;)
18 posted on 10/12/2003 7:51:19 AM PDT by OMalley
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To: johnny7
In the hospitals they call them H.O.N.D.A.s:
19 posted on 10/12/2003 7:57:47 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool ("I don't know how you survived, slave. It doesn't matter. Prepare to terminate." -- Sark)
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To: Leisler
You're right, but I suspect most demos didn't have any kind of long-range plan. They just go moment to moment and are utterly ahistorical:

1. "Look at these awful shacks in this part of town! Let's build them nicer places!"

2. "Wow, there's more of them than we thought and this is more expensive than we thought. Let's raise taxes!"

3. "Geez, even in these nice new brick places it looks like a slum because they have no jobs since the economy started shrinking after we raised taxes. Let's give them food stamps!"

4. "Wow, they're hungrier than I thought and there's more of them now. Let's raise taxes!"

5. "Say, they don't seem to want jobs. It must be because they're depressed about being poor. Let's give them money for clothes and entertainment!"

6. "Gosh, there's more of them than before now and they need more (and bigger) clothes. This is more expensive than I thought. Let's raise taxes!"

7. "Hey, where'd all the jobs go? Where'd all the tax-payers go? Why's the entire inner city such a wreck??"

20 posted on 10/12/2003 7:58:08 AM PDT by wizardoz (Palestinians blow up over the least little thing...)
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