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Team Kobe's bomb: Proof of other man
New York Daily News ^ | October 11, 2003 | GREG GITTRICH, CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 10/11/2003 10:16:02 AM PDT by TommyDale

Kobe Bryant's defense team believes it has proof that the woman who accused him of rape had sex with at least one other man shortly before the alleged attack, the Daily News learned yesterday.

The revelation came a day after Bryant's lead defense lawyer, Pamela Mackey, caused an uproar at a court hearing by asking whether the woman's vaginal tearing was the result of "sex with three different men in three days."

Retired Eagle County District Court Judge William Jones said Mackey asked the question because she has physical evidence suggesting the tearing could have happened during an earlier sexual encounter.

"There was more than one man's semen found in her panties," Jones said. "That's what's behind all of this."

Jones said he learned of this from Mackey's co-counsel, Hal Haddon.


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1 posted on 10/11/2003 10:16:02 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: All

"Facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our
wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions,
they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
- John Adams -


Make your statement.




2 posted on 10/11/2003 10:17:44 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: TommyDale
Guess the attorney wasn't an Anne Coulter fan huh? New York Times Goes Wilding on Central Park Jogger By Ann Coulter FrontPageMagazine.com | October 17, 2002

Probably feeling "humiliated," in 1989, a mob of feral beasts descended on Central Park to attack joggers and bicyclists. They brutalized a female jogger while incomprehensibly chanting "Wild Thing" in their ghetto patois. The jogger, a 110-pound, white investment banker, was beaten so badly she was declared "dead on arrival" at the hospital. Her skull was crushed and she had lost two-thirds of her blood.

Her attackers spent the night in jail joking about the attack, singing a rap song and whistling at policewomen. In his written confession, Yusef Salaam said, "It was fun."

At the onset of the first Central Park rape trial, the New American, a black newspaper in New York City, ran a front-page headline about the jogger titled: "The Truth about the Whore." (According to the New York Times, the paper referred to her with "a sexual epithet.") The article spun out the "theory" that her boyfriend had attacked her. The editor "acknowledged that the article was not based on any specific evidence. 'That's why it was called a theory,' he said. 'A theory means no evidence.'"

Recently the media have been spinning out their own theories about the attack, using the same definition of "theory."

The newsflash being billboarded across every New York news outlet right now is that prison inmate Matias Reyes has confessed to being the jogger's sole attacker. Breathless news accounts claim that the police were shocked to discover that new DNA testing has now proved Reyes alone attacked the jogger and that the others did not.

This is completely false. Liberals so long to claim that every criminal is innocent, they forget that the Central Park rape case received a lot of media attention when it happened. The facts are easily accessible on Lexis-Nexis. The media can't engage in their usual lies about a phony DNA "exoneration" this time.

In fact, it was well-known at the time that the semen found on the jogger did not match any of the defendants. Headlines proclaimed: "Semen Tested in Jogger Case Was Not That of Defendants" (New York Times); "Semen, Suspects No Match, Says DNA Expert in Jog Case" (Newsday); "DNA Expert: No Semen Links To Defendants" (Associated Press); and "Expert Says Semen on Jogger Is Not Teens'" (The Record).

Whatever evidence convinced two juries to convict the five animals, it was not DNA evidence. As usual, the media simply waited a decade, and then rushed to print with old arguments for the defense claiming it is "new evidence."

Thus, in a stunningly dishonest article, the New York Times claims "results from a battery of new DNA tests, which show that Mr. Reyes raped the jogger, have all been consistent with his version of events." The new DNA tests are consistent with precisely one part of Reyes' story: Matias Reyes raped the Central Park jogger. This is not new information. It was always known that Matias Reyes was out there; the police just didn't know his name.

Consequently, the new DNA tests are also consistent with the version of events presented in court, subjected to attack by defense counsel, and believed unanimously by two multiracial juries. In her summation to the jury, prosecutor Elizabeth Lederer told the jurors: "Others who were not caught raped her and got away." The five primitives on trial were described as among those who attacked the jogger. No new evidence contradicts the five guilty verdicts

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3926

3 posted on 10/11/2003 10:22:34 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
Are you just going to paste this on every Kobe thread? Can't we judge Kobe on the facts of HIS case?
4 posted on 10/11/2003 10:25:22 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: TommyDale
Talk about salacious! This is print pornography, plain and simple.
5 posted on 10/11/2003 10:28:18 AM PDT by Batrachian
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To: TommyDale
Oh, I see. So a woman can be raped if it can be proved that she had sex with someone else before being raped.
6 posted on 10/11/2003 10:28:35 AM PDT by pke
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To: TheOtherOne
Have only done this twice. Besides, the similarities between the two cases are quite enlightening. Having Kobe's defense lawyers taking the same route used by a gang of wilding thugs on a helpless woman doesn't exactly inspire confidence in his innocence.
7 posted on 10/11/2003 10:29:39 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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The previous sex is not being introduced to show she could not have been raped. It is being offered to show that there is another source for the redness and lacerations the prosecution is claiming prove Kobe raped her.
8 posted on 10/11/2003 10:32:36 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: KantianBurke
Having Kobe's defense lawyers taking the same route used by a gang of wilding thugs on a helpless woman doesn't exactly inspire confidence in his innocence.

He has to be proven guilty of rape, a crime for which he can, in Colorado, go to jail for the rest of his life.

If the accuser had serial consensual sex with different men over a short period of time prior to her encounter with KB, any one of those men could have been the source of the vaginal tearing and bruising.

Does this inspire confidence in the prosecution's case if their "bombshell evidence" is suddenly called into question?

9 posted on 10/11/2003 10:36:09 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
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To: KantianBurke
So let me get this right.

1. The prosecution intoduces evidence of redness and lacerations as proof that the sex with Kobe was not consensual.

2. Kobe's attorneys, on the belief the accuser had sex prior to the incident, ask if that could be the source of redness and lacerations.

And you think this is same as the cases you cite. Your bias is showing. For one, Kobe admits having sex with this woman. Further, the defense is introducing it to rebut specific evidence the prosecution tried to put forth.

10 posted on 10/11/2003 10:37:37 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: TheOtherOne
Simply the typical Liberal "nuts 'n sluts" defense being made public, to then claim pollution of the jury pool in Eagle, CO., to get the trial venue changed to Denver, where the jury can be salted with black jurors more easily.

This is the "second O.J. trial", plain and simple.
11 posted on 10/11/2003 10:37:42 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: traditional1
Your comments speak for themselves.

I will add that your thoughs on blacks on juries and the accused's right to defend himself are an shinning example of prejudice.

12 posted on 10/11/2003 10:41:12 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: KantianBurke
Man that was a nasty case and never one utterance of hate crime which it most certainly was. They even yelled racial epithets at her as they gang-raped her.

Awful...and they mostly got away.

Wilding as they called it, it happened shortly after I left Manhattan.
13 posted on 10/11/2003 10:42:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (I'm thinking.....)
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To: TommyDale
With this defense, all a rapist has to do is prove (suggest) that his victim has had sex before sometime in their past. Whether it was five minutes or five years ago, it doesn't give someone free pass to assualt anyone.

Kobe was a jerk before all this happened, why his wife stayed with him, I'll never know. No amount of money would be worth having to live with most of these pro athletes.

14 posted on 10/11/2003 10:50:32 AM PDT by Smittie
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To: pke
"Oh, I see. So a woman can be raped if it can be proved that she had sex with someone else before being raped."

That's not what it says. The implication here is that the defense is definitely going after the reputation of the young lady. Plain and simple, just like in almost all other rape cases. The finding of other DNA is almost a 100% guarantee that the accused will be found not guilty, based on "reasonable doubt".

15 posted on 10/11/2003 10:50:55 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Smittie
With this defense, all a rapist has to do is prove (suggest) that his victim has had sex before sometime in their past

Simply not true; her past sexual history is not relevant; that being said, sex within the previous 24 hours is.

16 posted on 10/11/2003 10:54:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: TommyDale
The finding of other DNA is almost a 100% guarantee that the accused will be found not guilty, based on "reasonable doubt".

And if the DNA had been only Kobe's he would have been found guilty.

17 posted on 10/11/2003 10:55:45 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: TommyDale
Why is this retired judge shilling for the defense?
18 posted on 10/11/2003 10:57:21 AM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
Because the retired judge believes it okay for Kobe to choke this girl, bend her over a chair, rape her from behind and force her to kiss his penis after he's finished. Typical pro-rape demoncrat junk justice.
19 posted on 10/11/2003 11:02:02 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: per loin
That is an excellent question. Evidently the gag rule doesn't apply to him?

Tacky, IMO.
20 posted on 10/11/2003 11:03:25 AM PDT by Howlin
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