Tommy Chong Begins Serving Prison Term

fox ^ | 10-9-03

[wheelgunguru]

PITTSBURGH

[freedumb2003]

and keep your eeeeeeeeyyyyyyeeeeeeeiiaaaeeeee
On the Sparrow!

Well, well, well

[Stew Padasso]

Good pot can cost around $100 a quarter once (so I've heard). That seems pretty expensive.

[Stew Padasso]

If he did say that, it comes across as a last ditch attempt to gain sympathy from the judge. Take your lumps and come out fighting Tommy.

[Ramius]

A quarter ounce is *really* a lot. For a moderate smoker that's a six month supply, at today's potencies. Quality is up by a couple of orders of magnitude from the eighties.

In the words of a friend of mine: "Just a little dab'l do ya."

[weegee]

I'm going to make up FREE TOMMY CHONG T-shirts.

Are you making one shirt for yourself or planning on making some shirts to sell? Better hope that Tommy Chong has a good sense of humor about that or else that he hire's Bill O'Reilly's unsuccessful attorney; such a t-shirt would trade on the commercial persona of Tommy Chong (and there has been a lot of Cheech & Chong merchandise in the past couple of years).

[Stew Padasso]

"For a moderate smoker that's a six month supply, at today's potencies."

I need to have a talk with some friends of mine. They are smoking too much.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

This makes me ashamed to be an American. To think that Martha Stewart is walking around free, after having committed real crimes, and that Tommy Chong is in prison for selling pipes...god help us. Where is the prison time for all the real criminals?

[weegee]

FREE TOMMY CHONG

I guess Cheech knows why Chong is in jail

Cheech and Chong
The first one's always free...

[weegee]

You forgot to mention that the lawyers will never go for it because they make a lot of money defending drug criminals and negotiating them lesser sentences. I know that lawyers give to political campaigns. I didn't know that gangs gave financial donations too.

[BobS]

"Dang. Just dang. Cheech Marin must be getting up there too, then?"

But Cheech was "Born in East L.A."! LOL!

[weegee]

What has ever been legalized?

Homosexual sodomy.

[Ramius]

It depends. I suppose.

My vice of choice is Wild Turkey... and heck... a fifth of that will last me a month. OK... maybe just a couple of weeks... but still...

It's all about what "moderation" means to you... :-)

[Fledermaus]

Your world must be very small. First, more suppliers would get into the game and use markets like they do for cigarettes. I only have to drive one half mile to get beer and cigs. And I can do that at over a dozen places in the same area.

And I don't know who you've been talking to, but pot on the street is far more expensive than it was in the late 1970's. Again, it depends on what you are buying, but it's still more expensive for the typical stuff most people are buying.

I could buy really good brown Columbian in 1979 at $120 a quarter pound, sell three ounces at $40 a piece and keep one for myself and break even. You can't find brown Columbian much anymore since most I see these days is green from Mexico, Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, etc.

The price of those middle of the road weeds is now between $150-200 an ounce. I don't think $40-75 an ounce in 1979 plus inflation will get you to today's prices.

Even when taxed, it would be cheaper and in a wide variety of types and potentcy.

Your absolutes are all wet. Anyone that truly buys pot regularly has a source, the majority don't just go wandering into the "streets" where you can get shot if a deal goes bad or have to buy from dubious dealers. The people "I know" don't go to the streets and drive up and down in their cars. We have one or two sources and believe me, it's not always easy.

It's common for the "I'll call you around 8 tonight" promise to turn into midnight or tomorrow or a few more days, "the dude wasn't home like he said he'd be; I got too stoned to drive over; the price changed", etc.

I know NO ONE that still partakes in my circles that would go out onto the streets even after weeks or months of being dry.

And you aren't taking into consideration the laws you cite that you think will make it harder to get and more expensive if it was legal are mostly state laws. In some states, like Tenn, you can't buy cigarettes and alcohol (hard liquor and wine) in the same place but beer and cigs is okay.

The same would apply to pot sales. Even if pot was treated like the heavily regulated tobacco industry, it would be everywhere. Some states would sell it themselves like NC and Ohio that sell liquor in state owned stores. And some states will have laws that make it easier to get and some won't. For example, Kentucky doesn't tax cigarettes that much and a carton is about $10 cheaper than in Tenn. Since Kentucky's true #1 cash crop is pot (as is Tenn, NC and others) they will also keep the taxes low like those on tobacco. And there would be, if not considered illegal by a state, pot bars like in Amsterdam.

And don't forget the internet. The pot selling websites would be in full force. This will create a large supply, diversity in product and price and all delivered to your door. It would revive California's economy for sure! Calif sensimilla at $250 for 4 grams deliverd? I'm in!

You talk like the government would regulate every pot store into some center far from the population center and that just wouldn't be the case. They'll want increased sales to increase their tax share. Pot would be the new lottery for many states.

Still have to say I think your are mistaken.

[Fledermaus]

Who buys a gram of pot? Do you know how little that is? It's 1/28th of an ounce and not enough to load a couple of decent bowls for a bong or pipe.

[Revolting cat!]

Does this mean that the War on Drugs has been won, just like the long forgotten War on Poverty (remember?) and the Army can return to the barracks?

[Stew Padasso]

Uhh, hittin the Wild Turkey. Man I cannot do that. Cheap domestic beer is my only vice.

[Mulder]

Welcome to Amerika.

[weegee]

And don't forget the internet. The pot selling websites would be in full force. This will create a large supply, diversity in product and price and all delivered to your door.

If selling bongs by mail is illegal (even if bongs are not illegal per se), then you can bet that selling pot by mail would be illegal. Even the Indian reservation sales of tobacco by mail have raised some red flags.

Also just where is this pot coming from? Would buyers be importing it from Columbia, Mexico, etc? Are you assuming that America's legalization of pot would suddenly cause all other nations around the world to legalize it? Would America be blamed for yet again leading to a cultural decay in other nations? Or would American buyers be asking foreigners to ship illegal products to them?

[Fledermaus]

No wonder you are wrong...if you think a "quarter ounce" is a lot you aren't talking to the right people to get your information.

And define "moderate smoker". A quarter ounce, clean, could roll aobut 7-8 cigarette sized joints. If the people you know only smoke that many in 6 months, then why don't they just quit? Or do they treat it like champagne on New Years?

Two adults that smoke about four average bong or pipe bowls each twice a week (that's pretty moderate to low usage) would go through a quarter ounce of pot in about a month.

[Ramius]

Oh, so many things... so little time.

The pot being sold now is simply *nothing* like that brown columbian of the seventies. That stuff wouldn't even be marketable today. It would have to be free, and even then you couldn't give it away.

As far as availability goes... do you know anyone that smokes on a regular basis? Do they ever have to go without? No... they don't. Sure, most of them have a couple of regular contacts. Of course they do. None of the folk I know ever have to worry about where their next gram comes from.